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2009/07/26 07:18:32 (permalink)
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Back on cycle after 2 years off

Hello Everyone,
 
I have done 4 or 5 cycles which consited of, sustanon, tets e, test cyp, test prop and dianabol.
 
I ahve had the last 2 years off the gear, although have still been training very hard and concerntrating on running as well as weights.
 
After cutting for a quite a while i now feel ready for my next cycle.
 
Last time i cycled i went fat as a pig!
 
So i wil be maintaining my fitness though this one running 3 times per week 6.5 miles in about 50 min, hilly routes etc.  which is why i wont be taking dianabol this time round - or probably ever again.
 
I already have two 10ml vials of clp deca and about 2ml of oreganon sust from my last stash.
 
What is the clp sust like??  i have the option of clp of kerachi although clp is cheaper
 
Next cycle will be
 
12 weeks sust at 500mg p/w with a front load of 1gram in the first week
 
10 weeks deca 400mg p/w
 
then pct 3 wweks after last sust jab.
 
I'm thinking about running test prop for the last 3 weeks whilst the sust is leaving my system before pct.
 
dose am thinking of is 150mg eod
 
the pct i have always done in the past is nolva:
 
100mcg day 1
60mcg days 2-11
then 40mcg 11-21
 
However i have never used deca before and beleive that its more suppresaant than test alone.
 
Should i be adding clomid to my pct?  maybe 50mcg per dayish?
 
Also for a cycle after being off for 2 years - does this look ok??
 
Any changes i could make??
 
Thanks
 
Phill
post edited by PHILL23 - 2009/07/26 07:29:50
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    Biffa_Bacon
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    Re:Back on cycle after 2 years off 2009/07/26 18:12:29 (permalink)
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    bump!
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    Re:Back on cycle after 2 years off 2009/07/26 20:51:59 (permalink)
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    Sounds like a decent cycle after being off so long.  I'd go with the pharma sust ie. the Karachi.

    I'd go with 100mg of Prop EOD wk 13-15 then start PCT week 16.

    You might want to think about adding in an AI such as Adex to limit water retention if you're gonna be running alot.

    Have you used HCG in the past? I wouldn't run a cycle without it personally.  It helps greatly with recovery IME. 

    Your Nolva doses seem a bit on the high side - I'd take 20mg off each dose ie day 1:80mg, day2-11:40mg, day12-21:20mg.  Add some Clomid in if you like day1:150mg, day2-11:100mg, day12-21:50mg.
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    Re:Back on cycle after 2 years off 2009/07/27 07:32:23 (permalink)
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    ^^^^ What Shyne said!!!!
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    Re:Back on cycle after 2 years off 2009/07/27 07:58:30 (permalink)
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    Morning chaps,

    Thanks for the replys, yes i have thought about taking something to stop the water retention, although have never used a AI before so not sure of doses etc.

    I have used HCG before, only when  balls shrunk though, do you think i should be using it in small doses to prevent shrinkage rather than to rectify?

    Doses i used of HCG was about 500iu every couple days untill they came back to normal size.


    Ohhhh its exciting, back on the gear soon lol!

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    Re:Back on cycle after 2 years off 2009/07/27 09:47:13 (permalink)
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    HCH at 500iu every week throughout the cycle works well for me.
    You could use proviron at 50mg ED or else Adex at 1.0 mg E3D's to keep minimize bloat
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    Re:Back on cycle after 2 years off 2009/07/27 10:00:51 (permalink)
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    cant offer you any help with your Q Phil but coincidentally I am going back on the gear after 2 years off also.

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    Re:Back on cycle after 2 years off 2009/07/27 11:39:02 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the avdvice on does jnr - which in your opinion is better adex? or proviron?

    And do you start the adex/poviron straight away?

    What cycle are you planning Mickey?

    I am really excited about this one as I have a much better diet, training and more time to train this time round  - Im not working at the min, starting college in sep so having a well earned rest.


    Thanks again chaps



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    Re:Back on cycle after 2 years off 2009/07/27 11:51:33 (permalink)
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    This is my 1st time using adex but seems to be working well so far.
    Proviron worked well for me also but adex blocks 80% estrogen IIRC  so should keep any gyno symptons at bay which is why I chose it this time.
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    Re:Back on cycle after 2 years off 2009/07/27 12:21:12 (permalink)
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    Hey Phillip.

    Were even more similar lol.  I quit my carer that I hated 2 years ago and went to uni so im on summer hols too.

    Im looking at either a primo only cycle at 1g per week for 5 months or more than likely to keep costs down and sex drive up 800 primo with 200 test for 4 months.

    Only after lean gains too. Done 5 cycles previously and didnt care about diet and cardio.  Ended up a huge house end but nothing more than a fat lump with biceps and pecs.  No good to me that mate.   Again, like you, cardio is extremely important to me now.  Its took me 2 years of cutting all that fat off to get to a stage where I want to cycle again.  Im now a fat phobe!  Not taking any chances and as such spending an arm and a leg on primo.  Diet sorted tons of cardio and weights and off we go.

    Wish you the best with your cycle mate.


    post edited by Mickey123 - 2009/07/27 12:39:37

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