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2008/05/21 18:38:35 (permalink)
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Barbell v Dumbell

I find pushing a barbell harder than dumbells. esp on chest press. Is this common?

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    RE: Barbell v Dumbell 2008/05/21 19:17:51 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: bullinghope

    I find pushing a barbell harder than dumbells. esp on chest press. Is this common?


    usely you cant lift less total weight doing dumbells than a bar.

    i train dumbells one week, bar the next, alternate

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    RE: Barbell v Dumbell 2008/05/22 15:54:35 (permalink)
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    good idea. I think I saw another post of yours saying about alternating. Fooling the body!

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    RE: Barbell v Dumbell 2008/05/22 16:12:05 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: beefycol


    ORIGINAL: bullinghope

    I find pushing a barbell harder than dumbells. esp on chest press. Is this common?


    usely you cant lift less total weight doing dumbells than a bar.

    i train dumbells one week, bar the next, alternate


    Surely if you did this eg you wouldnt gain as quick than if you did BB every week beefy ?

    I do 2 sets of d'bell then 8 sets of BB every week, just started this way and have been doing it for a few weeks, so that i can still lift heavy on d'bell and bb week in week out.
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    RE: Barbell v Dumbell 2008/05/23 10:42:30 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Icemansoldier


    ORIGINAL: beefycol
    usely you cant lift less total weight doing dumbells than a bar.

    i train dumbells one week, bar the next, alternate


    Surely if you did this eg you wouldnt gain as quick than if you did BB every week beefy ?

    I do 2 sets of d'bell then 8 sets of BB every week, just started this way and have been doing it for a few weeks, so that i can still lift heavy on d'bell and bb week in week out.


    Depends what you mean by "gain"; you would probably increase your bb benchpress weight lifted faster if you concentrated mainly on bb benchpress. But if you're less bothered about how much you can lift on a given exercise and more bothered about ensuring that your muscles work hard then alternating exercises should be fine imo.

    OP - as beefycol says, most people would say that the weight they can move on bb benchpress exceeds what they can move on db benchpress, because there are different stabiliser muscles involved in db benchpress. However, if you practice mostly with db benchpress and hardly ever do bb benchpress, then you may find that it is reversed for you. You tend to get better at whatever it is you practice the most, but you should probably catch up quickly if you swap for a while. Also, it can be difficult to compare bb and db benchpress because form may differ between the two; i.e. you might be underestimating the rom on db benchpress. Or, it might be due to fear; you might unconsciously hold back your effort on bb benchpress in case you end up dropping it on your chest.

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    RE: Barbell v Dumbell 2008/05/23 11:32:52 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: cjohn


    ORIGINAL: Icemansoldier


    ORIGINAL: beefycol
    usely you cant lift less total weight doing dumbells than a bar.

    i train dumbells one week, bar the next, alternate


    Surely if you did this eg you wouldnt gain as quick than if you did BB every week beefy ?

    I do 2 sets of d'bell then 8 sets of BB every week, just started this way and have been doing it for a few weeks, so that i can still lift heavy on d'bell and bb week in week out.


    Depends what you mean by "gain"; you would probably increase your bb benchpress weight lifted faster if you concentrated mainly on bb benchpress. But if you're less bothered about how much you can lift on a given exercise and more bothered about ensuring that your muscles work hard then alternating exercises should be fine imo.

    OP - as beefycol says, most people would say that the weight they can move on bb benchpress exceeds what they can move on db benchpress, because there are different stabiliser muscles involved in db benchpress. However, if you practice mostly with db benchpress and hardly ever do bb benchpress, then you may find that it is reversed for you. You tend to get better at whatever it is you practice the most, but you should probably catch up quickly if you swap for a while. Also, it can be difficult to compare bb and db benchpress because form may differ between the two; i.e. you might be underestimating the rom on db benchpress. Or, it might be due to fear; you might unconsciously hold back your effort on bb benchpress in case you end up dropping it on your chest.





    agree, iceman need to do both really, as cjohn said you use diff stabiliser mucsles, i.e balance, slightly diff movement. imo you need to do both, not just stick to the one. i usaly do barbell for two weeks, then swap to dumbells for two weeks.
    and then some times do flys first, then you cant bench as much.
    i like to mix it about, imo it helps you grow and gain more strength, plus you dont get as bored doing the same stuff

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    RE: Barbell v Dumbell 2008/05/23 12:19:51 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: beefycol


    ORIGINAL: cjohn


    ORIGINAL: Icemansoldier


    ORIGINAL: beefycol
    usely you cant lift less total weight doing dumbells than a bar.

    i train dumbells one week, bar the next, alternate


    Surely if you did this eg you wouldnt gain as quick than if you did BB every week beefy ?

    I do 2 sets of d'bell then 8 sets of BB every week, just started this way and have been doing it for a few weeks, so that i can still lift heavy on d'bell and bb week in week out.


    Depends what you mean by "gain"; you would probably increase your bb benchpress weight lifted faster if you concentrated mainly on bb benchpress. But if you're less bothered about how much you can lift on a given exercise and more bothered about ensuring that your muscles work hard then alternating exercises should be fine imo.

    OP - as beefycol says, most people would say that the weight they can move on bb benchpress exceeds what they can move on db benchpress, because there are different stabiliser muscles involved in db benchpress. However, if you practice mostly with db benchpress and hardly ever do bb benchpress, then you may find that it is reversed for you. You tend to get better at whatever it is you practice the most, but you should probably catch up quickly if you swap for a while. Also, it can be difficult to compare bb and db benchpress because form may differ between the two; i.e. you might be underestimating the rom on db benchpress. Or, it might be due to fear; you might unconsciously hold back your effort on bb benchpress in case you end up dropping it on your chest.





    agree, iceman need to do both really, as cjohn said you use diff stabiliser mucsles, i.e balance, slightly diff movement. imo you need to do both, not just stick to the one. i usaly do barbell for two weeks, then swap to dumbells for two weeks.
    and then some times do flys first, then you cant bench as much.
    i like to mix it about, imo it helps you grow and gain more strength, plus you dont get as bored doing the same stuff


    yeah ok, sorry to doubt you lol, i get you's now
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