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2011/03/14 23:03:15 (permalink)

Been on for 8 Months... PCT time...


Guys been on for longer than usual.. started a new business so stayed on and trained and ate well.... was on winny, clen, then test prop (6 months) dropped 6 inches on my waist and look alot more muscular, did my last shot friday and now I need to start PCT.... I have clomid and tamoxifen on hand.. my nuts are not that shrunk as I dont normally suffer from too much shrinkage (this is my 4th cycle)....

I know HCG would have been helpful but hey I couldnt get it... so with clomid and tamoxifen? I am pretty sure I should start tonight or tomorrow as prop is out of the system quickly I think...

Thanks guys
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    Danny187
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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/14 23:06:05 (permalink)
    Leave the desired clearance with the prop

    Then I would do 

    100mg clomid for 30 days
    20mg nolva for 30 days

    maybe adding in proviron for mood and libido .

    That is for what you have, maybe some more experienced guys could comment as its a long cycle

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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/14 23:08:52 (permalink)
    Welcome to MT mate, sounds like you got some good results.Clomid and Nolva pct will be fine although some of the other guys can advise you better on this as i have never stayed on that long.....not yet anyway lol. All the best mate. 
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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/14 23:12:41 (permalink)
    I am running a slightly longer cycle this time and my PCT will be

    ROHM Caps 
    25mg aromasin ED
    HCG 1000ui thru cycle
    GHRP maybe
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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/14 23:15:03 (permalink)
    Woah! Really need something solid for a PCT after 8month Blast!
    I wouldn't risk chucking you something off the top of my head, you'll need something well thought out like Dazc wrote out for the late Adam_newby.
    I'd see what Bigfella or Dazc have to say as i'd be lying if i thought such and such would be ok?

    MRE
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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/14 23:18:39 (permalink)
    MRE - He stated he has clomid and nolva and is starting like now, so a tapering down PCT may be hard for him at this time, also he used prop so dont know how that changes anything.

    Can you get some HCG and do few shot sof that prior to pct meds mate, 8 months on with no Hcg seems long
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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/14 23:26:55 (permalink)
    If he's used prop and no other meds i dont think he needs to taper, as their are no other meds to get out of system and recover problem, but as i said it is guess work and may be worth carrying on for another week while he gets it sorted, 12hours notice to sort out PCT is ridiculous after an 8month cycle.
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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/14 23:36:27 (permalink)

    I thought HCG was used for testicular Shrinkage.... and used at the end of the cycle.. I do have PCT meds here and I react well to medication normally.... I am thinking of 200mg Clomid tomorrow and 40mg Tamoxifen (all on day one of PCT). Then possibly 50mg clomid and 20 mg tamox for 10 days and then 10 more days of tamox at 20mg.
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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/15 10:25:42 (permalink)
    Lang 

    Me personally would run
    100mg clomid for 30days
    20mg nolva for 30days
    additional 25 - 50mg proviron for mood / libido

    but do how you want you want mate!!
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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/15 12:26:40 (permalink)
    So where you on prop for 6 months? If so thats a hell of a jabbing you been doing

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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/15 12:33:03 (permalink)
    You were on Winny for 6 months...?!?! Jesus Christ, your lipid profile must be medically unheard of by now! :S
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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/15 13:39:26 (permalink)
    WOW like massive21 said 6 months on winny. Are you ok? How's the heart and bones? hahaha only kidding.

    Good luck dude never done winny for that length.

    So was it weight lost you was after? If so dieting would have been better bro

    Why that long and why come on here for help now. We could had told you sooner to come off and sort out your PCT.







     

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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/15 13:46:42 (permalink)
    MRE - what do u mean 'the late Adam Newby'?? R u messing about? Hope so!!

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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/15 13:48:19 (permalink)
    lang
    I am thinking of 200mg Clomid tomorrow and 40mg Tamoxifen (all on day one of PCT). Then possibly 50mg clomid and 20 mg tamox for 10 days and then 10 more days of tamox at 20mg.



    Insufficient that mate, You'll need a longer time on SERMS to recover from that i'd imagine.

    I'd do 30 days on Nolva and clomid as danny suggested, provirons a great addition as well, keeps the mood and libido up.

    After trying pct with and without proviron i wouldn't go without it again, i didn't even think about sex for the 3 weeks i was on the SERMS. No interest whatsoever and i was only on for 15 weeks. I'd imagine you'll have a sh1t time of it after 8 months.... you will either way though i guess.

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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/15 14:39:49 (permalink)
    lang

    Guys been on for longer than usual.. started a new business so stayed on and trained and ate well.... was on winny, clen, then test prop (6 months) dropped 6 inches on my waist and look alot more muscular, did my last shot friday and now I need to start PCT.... I have clomid and tamoxifen on hand.. my nuts are not that shrunk as I dont normally suffer from too much shrinkage (this is my 4th cycle)....

    I know HCG would have been helpful but hey I couldnt get it... so with clomid and tamoxifen? I am pretty sure I should start tonight or tomorrow as prop is out of the system quickly I think...

    Thanks guys

     
    Lang, dont make the mistake of thinking that you can recover from an 8month cycle is a month or so. You wont.
     
    I see this alot. peple think standard PCT will work, and then thats it.
     
    8 Months is a long time, and you will need IME at least half that time to recover fully.
     
    Remember, the work isnt over. What it took to generate the results, is what it takes to maintain the results. That means, diet, protien, training, rest all have to be kept up to a high level.
     
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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/15 15:28:38 (permalink)
    As per Danny, however I would run aromasin at 25mg per day and definately get hcg. We can't scuss where but I have purchased from the internet many times as a last resort and its pharma stuff, never a problem.........

    so 30 days aromasin 25mg per day
    30 days clomid (I don't like or rate as studies show 20mg nova is as effective as 100mg clomid but if you have it it certainly wont hinder things)
    hcg mon wed fri week one and two 500iu each time (when using aromasin you won't suffer any rebound effects etc)
    nolva 45 days at 20g per day

    proviron i you want or feel the need.

    This would take you 45 days, the hcg should get the leydig cells going again regardless of shrinkage and ensure you ar good to go, and the rest of the coctail makes sure you are in a low estrogen high testosterone environment givng you the best chance of recovery.

    I did 26 weeks before and the above was my pct (no clomid though) apart from the fact I used hcg at stages throughout.  I did the same pct minus the nolva the next time and there was no differance. I canged to strength training when on pct and for 8 weeks afterwards and increased my poundages and bodyweight so imo/ime its as good a pct as there is without using tapers or gh which I would recommened for longer cycles and if different meds were used ;)

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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/16 00:07:03 (permalink)
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    MRE - what do u mean 'the late Adam Newby'?? R u messing about? Hope so!!

    just messing mate, aint heard anything since his 8month blast and cruise pct thread? cant of gone that well :(
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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/16 20:47:47 (permalink)
     
    Started PCT yesterday with clomid.. 200mg ; )  feel fine.... also my testes already feel bigger.... A friend of mine has been on 3 months and he says his are like raisons.... why do mine not shrink much??? I also brought Tribulus today and zinc, calcium tablets...
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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/16 20:52:58 (permalink)
    lang

     
    Started PCT yesterday with clomid.. 200mg ; )  feel fine.... also my testes already feel bigger.... A friend of mine has been on 3 months and he says his are like raisons.... why do mine not shrink much??? I also brought Tribulus today and zinc, calcium tablets...

     
    Mate drop the PCT meds now if you have tribuluis LOL
     
    I think trib is rubbish and as for Zinc good if your deficient, but end of the day if it gives placebo effect it means it works :)
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    Re:Been on for 8 Months... PCT time... 2011/03/16 21:32:34 (permalink)
    if you have been on 8 months, then regardless of shrinkage or not, you need to run HCG for a few weeks to condition the testes.  after that long a shutdown they will be desensitised and will not respond well.
     
    how you feel has little or nothing to do with recovery, and of course you feel fine, you only started pct a couple of days ago!
     
    clomid is IMO a poor choice for pct, despite it having been banded about over the years as 'the' pct med.
     
    and dont run tribulus, its counter productive in PCT.
     
     
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