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2017/01/11 20:08:19 (permalink)

Beginner oral winstrol cycle

First cycle, cant bite the bullet yet and inject so gone for orals, and opt for winny over dbol due to less side effects (ie gyno) and opt over anavar as i read winny achieves better muscle gains. Not looking to stack with anything else at all (i know stacking with test is preached). The goal is to put on a little muscle and shed a little excess fat.
My stats are 19yo, 5ft 10, 11.5 stone, BF about 10/11% and training about 4/5 years (last year and half more seriously).
The plan is oral Winstrol 50mg P/D for 6 weeks, followed by 3 weeks PCT of Nolvadex 40mg (15 days) then 20mg (7 days).
Also throughout the cycle and pct ill use HCGenerate to avoid balls shrinking and apparently keep test levels up , Milk thistle to protect liver, Fish oil for joints
Any advice/comments on my plan, all experienced comments? Just looking for general guidance
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    Re: Beginner oral winstrol cycle 2017/01/11 20:20:01 (permalink)
    One piece of guidance is do not spam the same thread in multiple places, posting about a cycle in general or beginner has no place.
     
    At 19 rather than jumping on a cycle at 11.5 stone, why don't you go on a bulk then a cut. If you are (and thats a big if) already 10/11% body fat then you should be easily be able to bulk and not add a huge amount of fat.
     
    Continue training into your late 20's then if you've got to a place where your gains have stalled then consider it.
     
    Have you really looked into the effects on what a cycle can do to you if it goes wrong.
     
    What are you using for PCT?
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    Re: Beginner oral winstrol cycle 2017/01/11 21:22:48 (permalink)
    You won't inject? How you administering that HCG?

    19Yr old, 11.5st and 10% body fat... You're not ready for gear! You can add a few stone naturally very easily with a better diet and training regime...

    If you can't grow without gear, adding it won't give you the results you think it will...
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    Re: Beginner oral winstrol cycle 2017/01/12 06:51:56 (permalink)
    I feel like ive looked into the effects in depth. Ive read that it doesnt aromatise so no gyno. My pct is stated in the original post (with the addition of a bunch of test boosters i missed out). I kno its harsh on the liver so milk thistle, harsh on the joints so fish oil and obviosuly makes your nuts shink so hcgenerate to somewhat prevent this
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    Re: Beginner oral winstrol cycle 2017/01/12 07:00:47 (permalink)
    Personally i'd run Tbol over winny all-day long.  

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    Re: Beginner oral winstrol cycle 2017/01/12 10:00:14 (permalink)
    Matt1234
    with the addition of a bunch of test boosters i missed out

     
    Don't bother with these.
     
     
     
    makes your nuts shink so hcgenerate to somewhat prevent this



     
    or this.

     
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    Re: Beginner oral winstrol cycle 2017/01/12 10:47:04 (permalink)
    Winny less side effects than dbol? Lol.
     
    Bad idea all round.
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    Re: Beginner oral winstrol cycle 2017/01/12 11:16:55 (permalink)
    Don't do it.

    I am an inch shorter than you, and I was 3.5 stone of muscle heavier than you before i bit the bullet and took gear.
     
    You do not know how to build muscles at the moment, or you would weigh more. 
     
    Your natural test levels will never be higher than right now, and you want to potentially ruin them by taking an exogenous compound... really? Do you think this is a good idea?
     
    Also, adding muscle and shedding fat at the same time... not possible with winny.
     
    If you want to do this, go with test, tren, T5, T3, masteron and growth hormone, a serious mix of chemicals...... otherwise, bulk or cut, you can't do both. 
     
    I don't want to come across as douche, but i want you to understand that you are too small and too young to start using any compound other than food. 
     
    Eat more, lift heavier weights. Find a power lifting club, train with some big strong lumps, they will show you how to make gains. 
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