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PikeKing
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2004/02/14 23:37:02 (permalink)
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Benching and thumbs


I was talking to an old powerlifter at the other day and he said that him and his mates used to use a thumbless grip. I used it a while ago when close grip benching but never on regular bench.

Anyone here use a thumbless grip while benching?
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    MikeyFive
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    RE: Benching and thumbs 2004/02/14 23:39:00 (permalink)
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    Unnecessarily dangerous isn't it. What actual benefit would you derive from using a thumbless grip?

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    RE: Benching and thumbs 2004/02/14 23:53:26 (permalink)
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    Yeah thats what I thought Mikey. I stopped using in on close grip benching as it was hurting my wrists.

    I dont know if you've seen 'An Introduction to Powerlifting:Directors Cut', in that there are loads of bars being dropped by benchers I can only imagine they were using thumbless grips.

    All the stuff my Dave Tate talks about pulling the bar apart, obviously you cant do that with a thumbless grip.

    There are a few champion powerlifters round here, salisbury seems to pump them out, some of them do it apparently.
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    RE: Benching and thumbs 2004/02/15 10:11:07 (permalink)
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    LOL!!

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    well what can I say?

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    RE: Benching and thumbs 2004/02/15 12:51:34 (permalink)
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    Do you mean a thumbless grip as in having your thumbs round the same side as your fingers? I do that a lot, especially with close grip benchand things like tricep pushdowns, I think because from gymnastics thats the most familiar grip for me to use. But I consciously try to avoid slipping into doing it that way, because i found that when I used my thumbs around the bar , it felt like it hit my inner triceps harder. Not sure why, but anyway now I try to do it the normal way.
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    RE: Benching and thumbs 2004/02/15 13:15:25 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by gymbabeliz

    Do you mean a thumbless grip as in having your thumbs round the same side as your fingers? I do that a lot, especially with close grip benchand things like tricep pushdowns, I think because from gymnastics thats the most familiar grip for me to use. But I consciously try to avoid slipping into doing it that way, because i found that when I used my thumbs around the bar , it felt like it hit my inner triceps harder. Not sure why, but anyway now I try to do it the normal way.



    I have used a thumbless grip in the past although I ran my thumbs along the side of the bar rather than on the same side as the fingers. for me it seemed to take the weight off the shoulders and put it more on to the chest and is a slightly stronger press. When you use a legal grip (thumbs around) your elbows are directly under the wrists which facilitates support of the bar by keeping the wrists straight. When using a thumbless grip your elbows are slightly further toward your feet than your wrists which allows you to take more of a decline pressing movement when arching, limiting the effect the shoulders have and getting the lats, chest and triceps more into play.

    It is dangerous though and is not legal in the IPF but you will or should lift slightly more weight once you get the technique right
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    RE: Benching and thumbs 2004/02/15 19:38:42 (permalink)
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    the theory behind is hat if you wrap your thumb around, you are increasing the stress that goes through your wrist, if you have a thumbless grip most of the power gcomes straight from the forearms to the bar.
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    RE: Benching and thumbs 2004/02/16 12:21:53 (permalink)
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    I've found it easier to tuck my elbows using a thumbless (open) grip.

    I've since hurt my RC real bad, so I've gone back to a normal grip and slightly closer.
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