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2005/08/02 18:13:26 (permalink)
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Bent-over rows - CG, or wide??

And what is the difference in effect? Am I right in thinking that one primarily develops the upper half of your 'V', and the other the lower? I feel a difference between the muscles being worked..but I can't quite pinpoint it due to my mind being otherwise occupied!!!

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    QUARANTINE
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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/02 18:37:17 (permalink)
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    Close grip would involve more shoulder and trap involvment as well as a greater range of movment for the biceps.
    Wide grip focuses more on the lats and upper back i reckon,
    personally i only use a grip a little wider than shoulder width appart.
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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/02 22:05:45 (permalink)
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    I usually go for wie grip but everyone is different.
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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/03 16:57:04 (permalink)
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    the closer the grip the more you are working the lats
    the wider the grip the more you are working the lower traps & rhomboids


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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/03 18:34:13 (permalink)
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    Pick up the weight and see for yourself, a close grip is basicaly the same as an upright row only bent over and uses more arm and shoulder work than the wide grip, you dont do close grip work to target lats.
    Common sense surely?
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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/03 20:12:23 (permalink)
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    the closer the grip the more you are working the lats
    the wider the grip the more you are working the lower traps & rhomboids

    Not true. Look at what Quarnatine has written as he is 100% correct.

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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/03 20:48:36 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: jack hammer

    the closer the grip the more you are working the lats
    the wider the grip the more you are working the lower traps & rhomboids

    Not true. Look at what Quarnatine has written as he is 100% correct.


    Not 100%. For starters, during the Upright Row, your elbows flare out - necessarily. The point of the Bent-Over Row is to hit your lats, and so you keep your elbows tucked into the body.

    However, I DO find that I get a more impressive appearance, armpit to armpit, from wide grip. Until anyone comes back with an authoritive answer, I'll implement 2 sets wide and one close.

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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/04 06:20:41 (permalink)
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    Not 100%

    Yes, it is 100 percent correct! With your arms at your side, you will incorporate the biceps more.

    I'll implement 2 sets wide and one close.

    Continue with what you think works for you.
    post edited by jack hammer - 2005/08/04 06:21:31

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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/04 06:36:11 (permalink)
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    I disagree. Wide grip is more posterior delt.
    Depends on how much you're bent over but wide grip is more akin to a reverse fly.
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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/04 12:33:57 (permalink)
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    not trying to hijack , but anyone got a link to show how to do this exercise? do you pull to the waist? and drop the bar back to the floor, or do u pull to th chest? lower chest/higher chest????


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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/04 13:20:45 (permalink)
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    yea.. i feel it in my traps more when i do close grip...
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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/04 14:57:37 (permalink)
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    although it looks like quite a simple movement IMO it's is quite an intricate one to get right.

    i do it Yate's style (well b4 he tore his biceps--no a good advert thinking about it) with a supinated grip. you have to try to squeeze your lats by pushing your elbows closer together at the top of movement when they are behind your back. i feel this right along the length of the lats especially at the lower insertion point.

    saying that i think for all over development you sohuld try different grips and widths but the supinated bent over rows are IMHO best for all over mass as you can handle more weight.

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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/04 17:51:45 (permalink)
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    Sorry Guys for the incorrect information

    I was sure that was the case, but never mind. I starting doing the movement my the pysio after i was told it would help my shoulder stability following dislocation - to help develop lower trap.

    I was sure i'd been told wider grip targetted more th middle of back (rhomoids and lower traps)

    Oh well, they've helped my back develop anyhow and i use a grip, slightly wider than shoulder width

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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/04 21:03:31 (permalink)
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    i think our different interpretaions of what is wide grip and close grip cloud the issue.

    I would stil maintain that using a grip a little more than shoulder width appart is best for overall development.
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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/04 22:17:42 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: QUARANTINE

    i think our different interpretaions of what is wide grip and close grip cloud the issue.

    I would stil maintain that using a grip a little more than shoulder width appart is best for overall development.


    Now I agree completely
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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/04 23:22:12 (permalink)
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    Its a similar debate to close grip and wide grip chins. Sure close grip does hit the biceps more, but I'm not convinced it hits the lats less - it just distributes the load across other supporting muscles. In the case of rows wide certainly hits the rear delts more.
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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/05 00:19:55 (permalink)
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    ^^^ TBH Chez, Close Grip Chins hit my Lats a lot better than Wide Grip. Each to there own i say, its all what works for you.

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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/05 01:00:10 (permalink)
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    ^^ Yeah me too - I always go for a nrrow grip on chins and rows.
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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/05 14:41:26 (permalink)
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    the best row would be the one that's feels most natural. i'd try all the suggestions above and see which fits you best as everyone is different structually.

    then once you've found the one you like best stick with it for a while then try one of the other ones so you're not just strong thru one plain of motion.

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    RE: Bent-over rows - CG, or wide?? 2005/08/05 18:38:56 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: rogerthedog


    ORIGINAL: QUARANTINE

    i think our different interpretaions of what is wide grip and close grip cloud the issue.

    I would stil maintain that using a grip a little more than shoulder width appart is best for overall development.


    Now I agree completely


    Still think they are no match for Deadlifts tho
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