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2015/01/30 10:44:59 (permalink)
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Best Supplements For Size/Strength (Not Creatine & Whey)?

Hey guys, I was just wondering... Providing you already have Creatine, Whey protein & Multivitamins as the base supplements, which would you say comes next as the best supplement(s) for increasing size & strength?

I'm not spending my food money on supplements as I've already done my month's worth of bodybuilding foods.  I have some spare cash now and was just wondering if there are any supplements out there which can help me with size/strength alongside my current supplements and food.

I'm a 27 year old male if that's of any relevance.

Seven or so years ago when I was making the best gains of my life, I was trying out a lot of different supplements although for the past few years due to switching jobs and not having as much money I've not been bothering to try any other supplements than the basics (whey protein, creatine & multis).  I've come into a bit more money now, and I'm willing to try out some "non essential" supplements again, so to speak, just to help give me an added edge in & out of the gym.


I'm open to any suggestions and would be happy to hear what you guys suggest is a worthwhile supplement to try out for strength/size.  I was thinking about some kind of Testosterone booster like Tribulus or something, but then again I'm not sure if they are worth it.



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Re: Best Supplements For Size/Strength (Not Creatine & Whey)? 2015/01/30 11:05:30 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby redwing 2015/01/30 18:40:37
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I wouldn`t bother with Test boosters they really arent that effective and dont present value for money.
They can be of limited use to individuals with deficiencies but not for healthy young guys.
If your diet is sorted and training program dialled in then other supplements will not make a great deal of difference unless there is a specific benefit that you are looking for apart from Increasing mass. 
supplements can help with health issues or lack of energy to a degree but in most cases its a case of diminishing returns for your money. 
You are already using Whey and Creatine , which are usually my first suggestions for supplementation. 
The only effective way to increase gains is more calories in , higher volume training and improving sleep patterns. 

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Re: Best Supplements For Size/Strength (Not Creatine & Whey)? 2015/01/30 11:29:56 (permalink)
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Ultra fine oats are cheap and great for adding to your shakes instead of eating porridge.
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Re: Best Supplements For Size/Strength (Not Creatine & Whey)? 2015/01/30 12:16:40 (permalink)
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That's great, cheers guys.
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Re: Best Supplements For Size/Strength (Not Creatine & Whey)? 2015/01/30 21:13:21 (permalink)
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peptopro is worth a shout as you could venture into using an intra workout shake. The red berry flavour that body building warehouse do is also very nice.
 
You could also try using leucine on a regular basis throughout the day to try and maximise protein synthesis, im going to be trying this. I'm hoping this will make a difference even if only minimal, the cost makes it also worth while. 
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Re: Best Supplements For Size/Strength (Not Creatine & Whey)? 2015/01/31 07:36:46 (permalink)
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I would look to cover common nutrients often lacking in diet. Vit D, omega 3s, maybe a good quality bee pollen or something of that ilk, ZMA/other sleep aid (5HTP)

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Re: Best Supplements For Size/Strength (Not Creatine & Whey)? 2015/01/31 10:09:08 (permalink)
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Good point on Leucine. 
Supplement 5 grams post W/O  and 15 minute before meals. it will give a benefit but you are only looking at a few percent improvement if your diet is already sorted. 

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Re: Best Supplements For Size/Strength (Not Creatine & Whey)? 2015/01/31 10:45:17 (permalink)
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Good point on Leucine. 
Supplement 5 grams post W/O  and 15 minute before meals. it will give a benefit but you are only looking at a few percent improvement if your diet is already sorted. 




even if its a few percent in terms of overall improvement ill take it, i worked out that im roughly going to break it down to 
 
5 gram upon waking
5 gram before lunch
as im using peptopro and waxy starch in my pwo, i dont think ill bother with it then
5 gram before evening meal/bed
 
so thats about 100grams a week if i use it every day, so 500g that i got for about a tenner will last me over a month.
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Re: Best Supplements For Size/Strength (Not Creatine & Whey)? 2015/01/31 11:01:16 (permalink)
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Its more efficient if you take it away from other aminos. 
I think its something like a 3 percent improvement in anabolism if everything else is nailed. 
Dr. Layne Norton has written some excellent articles on Leucine. 

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Re: Best Supplements For Size/Strength (Not Creatine & Whey)? 2015/01/31 15:02:02 (permalink)
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Its more efficient if you take it away from other aminos. 
I think its something like a 3 percent improvement in anabolism if everything else is nailed. 
Dr. Layne Norton has written some excellent articles on Leucine. 




In terms of taking it 15 mins before meals is that ideal? i read the slideshow link you posted, havent had time for the others yet.
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Re: Best Supplements For Size/Strength (Not Creatine & Whey)? 2015/01/31 16:42:03 (permalink)
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Just eat clen and tren hard, thank me later.

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Re: Best Supplements For Size/Strength (Not Creatine & Whey)? 2015/02/01 14:26:19 (permalink)
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Its more efficient if you take it away from other aminos. 
I think its something like a 3 percent improvement in anabolism if everything else is nailed. 
Dr. Layne Norton has written some excellent articles on Leucine. 




In terms of taking it 15 mins before meals is that ideal? i read the slideshow link you posted, havent had time for the others yet.


From my other response:

As stated before it is best to take the Leucine 10 to 15 minutes before meals so that other amino's are not in competition with it. This gives time for absorption to take place. 
Leucine acts to trigger the mTOR pathway signalling. If there is no Leucine present then this process cannot take place.
15 minutes will allow for absorption, I wouldn't recommend taking it earlier than that, or closer to the meal.
 
 
 

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