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Best for self defence

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2007/06/11 13:43:16 (permalink)

Best for self defence

My m8 thinks because I work on a door I know everything about fighting etc. What a popular mis conception. The art of a good doorman in my eyes is to be able to get someone out with the minimum of fuss. If it takes a fight then what can you do, but try talking them out first.

So, his latest question is, what is the best fighting art for self defence. I really haven’t a clue. anyone help out? Someone said Judo / Ju Jitsu. They also said to avoid sports fighting such as UFC as there designed for a ring/cage environment.

Any suggestions appreciated.

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    RE: Best for self defence 2007/06/11 14:04:56 (permalink)
    Hi Mickey,

    This topic regular comes up for discussion on the forum and I predict you'll get as many different responses as this type of question usually receives

    To get you started, here's a bunch of links to some recent topuics debating the same question;

    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_1858631/tm.htm
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    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_1662145/tm.htm
    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_1689245/tm.htm

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    RE: Best for self defence 2007/06/11 14:27:13 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Mickey123

    My m8 thinks because I work on a door I know everything about fighting etc. What a popular mis conception. The art of a good doorman in my eyes is to be able to get someone out with the minimum of fuss. If it takes a fight then what can you do, but try talking them out first.

    So, his latest question is, what is the best fighting art for self defence. I really haven’t a clue. anyone help out? Someone said Judo / Ju Jitsu. They also said to avoid sports fighting such as UFC as there designed for a ring/cage environment.

    Any suggestions appreciated.



    For self defence your probably better with Judo etc, loads of grabbing moves and no really kicking or punching. I did Karate when i was younger, got to my brown belt but then quit, this also mite be a good idea for you. Personally tho, i prefer kickboxing and Thai, more aggression, more fun. Leave the guy a shaking mess on the floor.

    UFC sucks to be fair. I went to an event afew weeks back for the 1st time and it sucked, big time. Every round both blokes were only on their feet for afew seconds, then its all grabbing and westling, pants. Ended up leaving how way through it was that boring.
    post edited by Clubber Lang - 2007/06/11 18:16:47
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    RE: Best for self defence 2007/06/11 15:40:25 (permalink)
    For a quick answer...

    I would suggest Boxing and some form of grappling art such as Judo or Ju Jitsu.
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    RE: Best for self defence 2007/06/11 15:42:54 (permalink)
    self defence for a door man is often different to self defense for street fights.

    door man as you say are to dipose of people so your want to know holds and often you be one, two, three people on one person.
    while street fighting you could be on the recieving end of multiple attacking people including weapons, where restraining one person is pointless as the other guy will hit you.

    best to do a mixed martial art place (mixed martial arts not as in MMA the sport). where i have trained in place they will do say 2 thia boxing, 2 bjj, a shoot fight, 2 akido etc.
    place like this can be good as you learn different skills.
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    RE: Best for self defence 2007/06/11 21:24:57 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: stephen77

    self defence for a door man is often different to self defense for street fights.

    door man as you say are to dipose of people so your want to know holds and often you be one, two, three people on one person.
    while street fighting you could be on the recieving end of multiple attacking people including weapons, where restraining one person is pointless as the other guy will hit you.

    Very good point. Although I'm an instructor, I'm not actually allowed to teach law enforcement in a professional capacity until I've done an extra course. This is due to the 'normal' moves being eye gouges, causing broken arms, etc; not what you want for a police force or door supervisor. Plus, as well as being less aggressive, per se, the restraint techniques are often more technical and job specific (rolling someone over for handcuffing, etc).
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    RE: Best for self defence 2007/06/11 22:35:02 (permalink)
    door man as you say are to dipose of people so your want to know holds and often you be one, two, three people on one person.
    while street fighting you could be on the recieving end of multiple attacking people including weapons, where restraining one person is pointless as the other guy will hit you.


    so people dont pull weapons or bottles on doorlads?

    dont forget that some peopel can naturally fight mate, ive had a lot of digs in my time and never been knocke out, ive been bust up though - it will happen one day and up until the other month i didnt do any form of art or fighting

    i know lads who's take out a **** hot boxer/thai boxer/karate/etc and they dont do anything

    imo you need to be able to fight to be a doorlad, dont rely on your mouth, it helps and should be used whenever possible, a blag is always handy as well

    saturday night we had the possibility that 15 lads (all bigger then us 3) would kick off bigtime with us, now im not a great fighter and i havnt been boxing long enough to use that effectively but i feel confident we would still be here today all be it a bit bust open
    drop 2 each, theres 6 lying flat on their backs, the other 9 start flapping
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