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2007/06/14 15:30:16 (permalink)
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Best time for protein shakes.

need a bit of advice.

I drink 3 protein shakes a day. It's from a company called Scitec. I work for a gym and I get a months supply for £26 which I think is pretty cheap. you get 20g protein per 35g serving.

The thing i want to know is when is the best time to take them. I normally take one as soon as I wake up, one mid day and one b4 bed.
If it's a trining day I swap my mid day one for one 30 mins b4 training and I do an extra one straight after.

Is this ok as i've been told that this could be too many.
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 15:31:11 (permalink)
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    yeah way too many, not enough quality food in your diet mate. Whats your stats, goals and current nutrition plan
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 15:42:34 (permalink)
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    I'm 6" 1, 80kgs. I'm trying to build a little lean muscle with out adding too much fat. I'll admit that my diet is the problem.

    I'm on a fairly strict diet due to my budget so i've been drinking the shakes to boost my protein for the day as i can't afford loads of protein rich foods.

    I have 4 egg whites and 2 slices granery bread for breakfast,
    Chicken breast mid morning,
    Large salad for lunch with cottage cheese
    chicken breast sandwich (granery) mid after noon.
    I never really ate dinners cos of working two jobs so I tended to grab another sandwich or do a quick omlette with 6 egg whites 2 yolks and eat a banana at work. I know this is bad so I've started having tuna, brown rice with a few veggies and warming it up at work.



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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 15:59:18 (permalink)
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    ok good clean lean protein is cheap you just need to know what to buy il list some good examples for you

    Turkey Mince 95% lean 450 £1.17 in ASDA 90g of pro
    Econony Chunks of Tuna 29p 30g pro per can ASDA
    Cottage cheese economy 28p per 200g tub 23p from asda
    economy eggs x15 per box £1 from asda or tesco

    You have no healthy fats in your diet either, incomplete meals left right and centre. These articles will help

    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-mass-gaining.aspx
    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.asp?m=915134
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 16:08:20 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: theiopener

    yeah way too many, not enough quality food in your diet mate. Whats your stats, goals and current nutrition plan


    Why is it way to many?
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 16:12:39 (permalink)
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    Cheers for that.

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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 16:13:25 (permalink)
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    he wants to build muscle and is on a strict budget, theyre far more expensive than real food hence i said too many . Plus from his response i dont see any other trace of fat, carb sources anywhere
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 16:32:16 (permalink)
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    sorry, I didn't give the full thing on my shakes.

    I mix 100g of powdered scotish oats to my pre-workout shake and I mix dextrose to my post workout shake.

    Trust me, I'd love to be able to eat loads of chicken and fish every day but my budget (and the wife) won't allow it so I've had to try and get good protein from somewhere else cheaper.

    My shakes work out to under £1 a day for 3 shakes which can't be bad.

    I'm taking on board all the advice about veg etc and I'm going to sit down at home with the asda website and plan a proper (cheap) diet.
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 16:34:29 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: theiopener

    he wants to build muscle and is on a strict budget, theyre far more expensive than real food hence i said too many . Plus from his response i dont see any other trace of fat, carb sources anywhere


    So you cannot build muscle using shakes in the diet?

    Bulk whey is cheaper than whole foods imo,unless you limit yourself to tuna,eggs.

    You could add carbs and fats to the shake?
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 16:38:01 (permalink)
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    i can create a diet so cheap the mind boggles mate and youll still gain off of it. The only powder he'll need is PWO whey. Turkey mince is versatile and has the same macros as beef mince yet is as cheap as chips, tuna is cheap but again i have loads of ideas, cottage cheese, quark, fat free fromage frais, tinned pilchards for oily fish, wholewheat pasta, eggs etc. I managed ot get a bulk diet down below £3 a day including PWO nutrition and it wasnt bland, boring or reptitious
    post edited by theiopener - 2007/06/14 16:39:36
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 16:39:46 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: theiopener

    i can create a diet so cheap the mind boggles mate and youll still gain off of it. The only powder he'll need is PWO whey. Turkey mince is versatile and has the same macros as beef mince yet is as cheap as chips, tuna is cheap but again i have loads of ideas, cottage cheese, quark, fat free fromage frais, tinned pilchards for oily fish, wholewheat pasta, eggs etc. I managed ot get a bulk diet down below £3 a day including PWO nutrition and it wasnt bland, boring or reptitious


    Agreed, I only use this. =)
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 16:40:24 (permalink)
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    Whey, that is
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 16:41:08 (permalink)
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    I've looked at the link you posted for a budget diet and it looks good.

    Do you have a better one or is that one the best.
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 16:41:40 (permalink)
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    i can make you one if you want mate, tell me your macro needs and ill design you a meal plan to suit if you like
    post edited by theiopener - 2007/06/14 16:42:52
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 16:46:36 (permalink)
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    Sorry, being a bit thick here. What are MACRO needs.
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 16:48:08 (permalink)
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    protein/carbs and fat ratios
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 16:50:08 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: theiopener

    i can create a diet so cheap the mind boggles mate and youll still gain off of it. The only powder he'll need is PWO whey. Turkey mince is versatile and has the same macros as beef mince yet is as cheap as chips, tuna is cheap but again i have loads of ideas, cottage cheese, quark, fat free fromage frais, tinned pilchards for oily fish, wholewheat pasta, eggs etc. I managed ot get a bulk diet down below £3 a day including PWO nutrition and it wasnt bland, boring or reptitious


    Mate any chance you could post up such a diet. It would be handy to have next to Toxics V2 diet

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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 16:53:01 (permalink)
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    im working on it, ill run it by Toxic first as i dont want to step on his proverbial toes . Also need to run it by the admin as well
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 17:03:50 (permalink)
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    I don't know what my MACRO should be.

    I'd like to add some muscle (about half a stone) without adding fat.

    I weigh 80kgs and my body fat is between (i think) 10-15%
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    RE: Best time for protein shakes. 2007/06/14 17:24:00 (permalink)
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    so you dont know what ratio of protein, carbs and fat you should be having then? generally protein requirements are 1.5g per pound of pean body mass not bodyweight, carbs are 2g per lean body mass and fat can be factored in once you have the other two
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