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2011/03/16 19:20:00 (permalink)

Big course for Big Size

just got 400ius of growth
looking for a good med to run with it (or meds)
how many ius should i take a day for max results 5-8 split into two jabs?
trying to plan a course during my break which has 5 weeks remaining. last course was test, deca and kigs at 4iu a day. gained well with good lifts and still very lean.
what have you run with growth and how long etc?
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Re:Big course for Big Size 2011/03/16 21:34:40 (permalink)
best for growth is PWO combined with other meds, but thats not a recommendation im keen to make.
 
other than that, it really doesnt matter how you take the growth, effects will be about the same.  taking it, is the most important part of GH dosing, when you take it really makes little difference.
 
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Re:Big course for Big Size 2011/03/16 22:21:49 (permalink)
will it make a difference running it during a course or test/sus and deca, or is it better with other meds?
dont want to go down the insulin route.
after a cycle to add some size, not worried about water retention as i hardly seem to be affected by that ever!
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Re:Big course for Big Size 2011/03/16 22:45:04 (permalink)☄ Helpful
Steroid wise, it really wont make much difference which your using with the GH.  But test deca is about the best your going to get for gaining muscle, so thats going to be the best combo for running alongside the GH.
 
in terms of muscle gain, there is slight advantage to running bigger shots, less often.  so 8 or 10 ius depending on the kit size 3x per week, say mon, wednesday, friday.
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Re:Big course for Big Size 2011/03/16 23:15:04 (permalink)
^^^ What dazc said
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Re:Big course for Big Size 2011/03/17 21:32:35 (permalink)
what if you ran 8ius or 10ius ed for 40 days with test n deca or is it better to do 80-90 days like you guys say and do 3 jabs of 10ius a week with the test n deca in between.
im thinkin longer on but smaller doses is more effiecient to maximize gains? plus less sides
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Re:Big course for Big Size 2011/03/17 21:35:35 (permalink)
just as an aside are they generic green tops? tempted to give it a go to see if it will help sort out some biceps tendonitis I am suffering with, but I can only get generic green tops and they aren't cheap...any thoughts anyone

Age 43, 6 ft 1 in,100 kg.....just getting back into it after my son was born a couple of weeks ago. Need to lose the BF that has built up.
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Re:Big course for Big Size 2011/03/17 21:38:14 (permalink)
i am yet to collect them, but as soon as i know ill get back to you, my last lot was kigs and it seemed to clear up a bad shoulder injury i had. not sure if it was the growth or the time that sorted it, but its gone now. onto the next injury lol.
 
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Re:Big course for Big Size 2011/03/18 10:11:59 (permalink)
dazc

Steroid wise, it really wont make much difference which your using with the GH.  But test deca is about the best your going to get for gaining muscle, so thats going to be the best combo for running alongside the GH.

in terms of muscle gain, there is slight advantage to running bigger shots, less often.  so 8 or 10 ius depending on the kit size 3x per week, say mon, wednesday, friday.

Is this how you and most others runs it dazc?   always though e/d was supposed to be better regardless of dose? Do you mean 10iu mon wed and fri is better than 4iu e/d? (approx same amount each week etc)
 
I planned on using 1.5g test 500mg deca or tren and 4iu e/d GH for 12+ weeks
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Re:Big course for Big Size 2011/03/18 10:17:47 (permalink)
ED is common for fat loss, either pre-bed or AM.
 
Offseason usually used alongside insulin PWO, or on its own pre-bed in a larger dose (so if doing 30ius a week ED, would do 10ius Mon,Wed,Fri as your training days)
 
Other way would be a GHRP6 and CJC combo, then 15-20mins later a small shot of GH, say 2ius. Not so large basically to shut off natural production from pituitary.
 
As for the course, keep it simple. Test and an anabolic like Deca will work nicely. Doses based on previous cycles, most important for growth is attention to diet, not an extra ML in the barrell.
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Re:Big course for Big Size 2011/03/18 11:01:38 (permalink)
Chrisla

ED is common for fat loss, either pre-bed or AM.

Offseason usually used alongside insulin PWO, or on its own pre-bed in a larger dose (so if doing 30ius a week ED, would do 10ius Mon,Wed,Fri as your training days)

Other way would be a GHRP6 and CJC combo, then 15-20mins later a small shot of GH, say 2ius. Not so large basically to shut off natural production from pituitary.

As for the course, keep it simple. Test and an anabolic like Deca will work nicely. Doses based on previous cycles, most important for growth is attention to diet, not an extra ML in the barrell.

I never knew taking GH stops your body producing it?
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Re:Big course for Big Size 2011/03/18 11:27:20 (permalink)
It's not proven whether it is or isn't.

People speculate that injecting synthetic GH pre bed could stop your own bodies production while you sleep.

It's bro science at it's best but there's nothing concrete to say it does or doesn't afaik... depends which side you buy into it.
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Re:Big course for Big Size 2011/03/18 18:22:17 (permalink)
Chrisla

ED is common for fat loss, either pre-bed or AM.

Offseason usually used alongside insulin PWO, or on its own pre-bed in a larger dose (so if doing 30ius a week ED, would do 10ius Mon,Wed,Fri as your training days)

Other way would be a GHRP6 and CJC combo, then 15-20mins later a small shot of GH, say 2ius. Not so large basically to shut off natural production from pituitary.

As for the course, keep it simple. Test and an anabolic like Deca will work nicely. Doses based on previous cycles, most important for growth is attention to diet, not an extra ML in the barrell.

cheers for the info.  I to didn't realise the GH production was shut down whilst taking it. My understanding what you injected was a peptide hormone that helped the body and liver produce more GH, igf-1 etc.
 
Hey ho, everyday is a school day, this is a decent article imo on GH
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone

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