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2005/08/03 04:29:26 (permalink)
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Bodybuilder and a wrestler

Why do thay look so different ? thay train the same eat the same , is it all down to bodyfat ? also how do wrestlers keep there muscle do thay cycle regularly like bodybuilders ?

cheers for the info as this has baffled me
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    sabbath
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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/03 09:51:13 (permalink)
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    well if you look at people like chris masters and dave batista there isnt really much difference

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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/03 11:33:33 (permalink)
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    Reckon this is gonna be locked so thought i'd be the first to point it out.
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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/03 11:34:51 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: IronMikeTyson

    Why do thay look so different ? thay train the same eat the same , is it all down to bodyfat ? also how do wrestlers keep there muscle do thay cycle regularly like bodybuilders ?

    cheers for the info as this has baffled me


    how do u know they train the same and eat the same?

    im sure some of them do cycle..its good cardio after all
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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/03 11:35:32 (permalink)
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    as far as i know a lot of wrestlers do use roids - thats why vince mcmahon was getting indicted some years back
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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/03 13:05:30 (permalink)
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    If you're talking WWE stuff, I'd say the vast majority use AAS.

    In any case, it's a strange question because most WWE wrestlers do look like BBers except for not having contest levels of bodyfat, which is hardly surprising.
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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/03 15:15:07 (permalink)
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    It's like many american football players , or many other bug guys you see at the gym, or big guys you see in movies or rap videos.

    BBing is about being huge, but also ideal proportions and very very low bodyfat so as to be ripped!
    A lot of the wrestlers out there are cut (say 8% bodyfat for example), but wouldn't want to push themselves to extreme of dropping to 3%

    They will also train for strength, and to maintain flexibility.

    In many cases the wrestler/other will be almost in BBing condition (maybe not Coleman standard, but good enough to step on stage) but many don't want to, step on stage in a thong, maybe it doesn't fit their reputation.

    I had this discussion with my bro about BIG guys in films such as Michelle in the comedy Dodgeball, or those big gangsters in Be Cool. The fact is that they may wanna be big but not like the idea of BBing show. Some people still think of the whole concept as rather gay.
    The other factor is, frankly there's probably a heck of a lot more money in acting, music and wrstling than there is in Bodbuilding. The only guys who make any REAL money are the TOP pros.


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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/03 23:26:48 (permalink)
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    the question i have always wondered is what distinguishes a young, cut-up, aesthetically proprtioned wrestler (John Cena, Chris Masters) to other wrestlers that are big but have the bloated/soft appearance and in many cases older (triple H, Jericho, JBL)
    I mean what do you think their cycling. are the bigger ones just obsessed with getting big rather than cut. too much GH? genetics?
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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/04 13:41:40 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: smartwater

    the question i have always wondered is what distinguishes a young, cut-up, aesthetically proprtioned wrestler (John Cena, Chris Masters) to other wrestlers that are big but have the bloated/soft appearance and in many cases older (triple H, Jericho, JBL)
    I mean what do you think their cycling. are the bigger ones just obsessed with getting big rather than cut. too much GH? genetics?


    Chris Jericho isn't all that big so I wouldn't say it's an obsession with being big. I think some are just more concerned with being cut than others. Plus, plenty of athletes (and this is where youth is an advantage) can put on muscle and not put on much fat without actually concentrating on staying lean.
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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/04 15:03:29 (permalink)
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    Mak: the gangsters in BeCool were bodybuilders, Will Harris, Quncy Talor are the 2 I remember off the top of my head!
    The main difference is actually that bodybuilders have lower bf at contest time and higher off season, they have different back and leg development - as a huge bbing back is actually rather a hinderance when seeking to be flexible and moble.

    So from the front there is some similarity, although a wrestler would be hindered by overly developed quads - when they turn round the thickness of a bber and back development is all absent as these are counter productive in a wrestling environment.

    Also the schedule demands of a wrestler mean they cannot maintain the sort of mass a bber could - if you take a post injury HHH who was huge and ripped and look at him one full wrestling season later before his off time - smaller and higher bodyfat because when you push yourself with travel and wrestling you cannot pound the weights or keep the diet as regular as when you are in one place with few to no commitments appearance wise.

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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/04 22:55:15 (permalink)
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    then how come john cena is always pretty much cut up week in week out?
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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/05 00:31:55 (permalink)
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    to be blunt Cena will barely top 200 if he is under 6ft and 215 if over.
    To me he does not carry the impressive mass of Batista or HHH

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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/05 01:00:29 (permalink)
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    I like that build.
    The beach look.
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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/05 16:15:04 (permalink)
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    Ah right, didn't recognise the, though I have hear of will harris. I must have been distracted by the beautiful lady next to me (my girlfriend).

    Yeah, similar points about flexibility and bf%.

    HH and thaty batista chap look like BBerrs fromthe front, but I'm with Les mr cena isn't the right shape for a Pro BBer.

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    Mak: the gangsters in BeCool were bodybuilders, Will Harris, Quncy Talor are the 2 I remember off the top of my head!
    The main difference is actually that bodybuilders have lower bf at contest time and higher off season, they have different back and leg development - as a huge bbing back is actually rather a hinderance when seeking to be flexible and moble.

    So from the front there is some similarity, although a wrestler would be hindered by overly developed quads - when they turn round the thickness of a bber and back development is all absent as these are counter productive in a wrestling environment.

    Also the schedule demands of a wrestler mean they cannot maintain the sort of mass a bber could - if you take a post injury HHH who was huge and ripped and look at him one full wrestling season later before his off time - smaller and higher bodyfat because when you push yourself with travel and wrestling you cannot pound the weights or keep the diet as regular as when you are in one place with few to no commitments appearance wise.

    big les

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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/05 18:01:01 (permalink)
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    i thought john cena used to be a BB
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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/05 18:30:24 (permalink)
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    to be blunt Cena will barely top 200 if he is under 6ft and 215 if over

    Cena is around 235 lbs at 6'1". He carries decent size in good condition.

    Let it sink.... I can swim.
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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/05 22:31:13 (permalink)
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    les john cena's a big bastard, not pro bb size but still a lump. Found a vid which gives a better indication to his size than the pics on the net http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/johncena/profile/
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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/05 23:18:28 (permalink)
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    no doubt he is a big lad - heck him me dark alley not something I would relish if I had done some thing to displease him
    Dunno he looks a lot better in the entrance vid than any pic I have seen or profile - so maybe he looks better watching WWE - which I havent been able to do (no Sky!!!).

    Something still lacks in his physique to me, he probably has a big structure which being over 6ft means he needs to be 280 to look filled out
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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/06 01:54:27 (permalink)
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    would you say him being "filled" out as well is the reason to why he is able to be cut up more than most or something hes cycling
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    RE: Bodybuilder and a wrestler 2005/08/06 12:39:07 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: smartwater

    would you say him being "filled" out as well is the reason to why he is able to be cut up more than most or something hes cycling


    Maybe he's just naturally very lean? Some people are like that, I don't think you need to look for all sorts of arcane reasons for it.
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