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2009/07/15 17:16:57 (permalink)

Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please

As above, I'm thinking of running an Eq-Jet (Bold 200) cycle in the near future after my holiday's, but following a little reasearch it appears some previous users have run a test booster on cycle to alleviate the loss of libido, is this correct?
 
Looking to run for 6 weeks at 600mg for some dry lean gains and hopefully low sides, but just curious about the test booster part.  If it's correct, Testabolan has been mentioned as the test booster, is this any good or could I run something like Cissus-Drol? 
 
I was thinking of Cissus-drol for test boosting due to it's AI properties...would this help to reduce the possibility of gyno symptoms on-cycle? Or would you run something else? If so, which product?
 
Any advice you could give me would begreatley appreciated,
 
Many thanks!
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/15 23:29:45 (permalink)
    Running a test booster would be do pretty much nothing, IMO

    600mg with a 15% conversion would be 90mg boldenone a day.  Not enough, IMO when you consider this figure is assuming all of the powder in the caps will be effecienty utilised (seldom the case).

    the 6-bromo in CD may help with the bloating, and to a lesser extent - the possibility of gyno
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/16 18:24:24 (permalink)
    I personally would and have run this at 800mg for 8 weeks i gained about 12 pounds kept about 9 but then lost all this after suffering from food poisoning twice haha not so lucky am i. I think my gains were modest as i did suffer through cycle with a shoulder injury.


    Anyway some people run this with testabolan i did but v1 as it came with bold as pack so i guess i was lucky. Its there to help even out anysides you might encounter whilst assisting with gains. I think it has ecdysterone which some love some hate. Its a proprietary blend and its purpose is to increase natural test level up and to stop shut down while on cycle. Some believe this helps them recover in PCT easier.

    Recently ive read that ATD like Nolvedex xt might be useful along with bold and might increase conversion rate as it closely resembles the compound bold i think someone like PA mentioned this also, that might be worth looking into as well.

    what is your current weight that might be a determine factor at what does would be useful.




    post edited by MILKY - 2009/07/16 18:35:08
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/16 19:02:16 (permalink)
    Thanks for the replies!

    Milky...read some of your bold info, that's what made me think about running it :)

    Currently I'm 13.5st, 5'8 looking to hit 14stone if I can.

    So would you think 800mg ED would be more beneficial over 600?  Appreciating Daari's post, the conversion does work out a little low so 800mg would give me 150mg bold, sound about right?

    If so, would running that, testabolan or Novadex xt on-cycle then pct give me some decent gains?

    What PCT did you run?  The yanks seem to be running a good test booster for pct, is this all you need or would you choose a SERM?

    Thanks very muh for the info :)
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/16 19:24:49 (permalink)
    You might get away with 600mg but if you say money isnt a problem then play safe and go for 800mg 8 weeks eat plentiful and you will comfortably break into the 14st plus catagory.

    This is mild and imo doesnt require a serm not even at 8 weeks but i would and did run a natty test booster like testabolan or Mass fx along with my bold it kept my libido going at least i believe it did lower in later weeks of cycle 5-8 but nothing stopped so i dont believe i got complete shut down which will certainly kill your libido.

    The harsh truth is though this is a costly cycle good first bold cycle but if you go for a OTC PCT then things do get expensive i know mine did but like you i didnt mind.

    I read again somewhere that 800mg with 15% conversion was more that what people was injecting boldenone once a week. dont forget the effect is accumulative say you convert 15%  or 90mg ED of boldenone then x 7 thats 630mg a week.

    My PCT was 6oxo 600mg x 4wks AI
    Lean FX for cortisol regulator 4 weeks
    Mass fx for Test booster plus other
    DIM estrogen regulator

    I sailed through my pct with this expensive though.

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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/16 20:26:04 (permalink)
    Good post Milky, exactly what I was looking for, much appreciated matey!

    I won't be cycling until back-end of September, clear of my holiday's then and can cycle un-interrupted ;)

    So in theory if I wanted to reduce costs for PCT, I could simply run a SERM could't I.

    I like the idea of running testabolan on-cycle though, as I do suffer from loss of libido so don't want the missus getting upset lol
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/16 21:09:20 (permalink)
    Yes exactly Serm if you choose certainly cheaper and proven to be highly effective but not alway neccessary.

    And also a OTC PCT if you chose.

    No problem danaj

    MACA and HGW also will help boost libido to a degree.

    Good Luck.

    Are you going to run a log
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/17 00:03:05 (permalink)
    danaj

    Thanks for the replies!

    Milky...read some of your bold info, that's what made me think about running it :)

    Currently I'm 13.5st, 5'8 looking to hit 14stone if I can.

    So would you think 800mg ED would be more beneficial over 600?  Appreciating Daari's post, the conversion does work out a little low so 800mg would give me 150mg bold, sound about right?

    If so, would running that, testabolan or Novadex xt on-cycle then pct give me some decent gains?

    What PCT did you run?  The yanks seem to be running a good test booster for pct, is this all you need or would you choose a SERM?
     
    800mg ED would be the minimum I would run.  works out as 120mg bold a day (asssuming all the powder is absorbed and used)
     
    I still see no reason to use a test booster whilst on cycle. It's very use would be made redundant
     
    Most yanks use OTC PCT's as it's a lot harder for them to import/source POM's like SERMS.  I would always choose a SERM

    Thanks very muh for the info :)


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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/17 11:31:06 (permalink)
    Thanks Daari, much appreciated bud.

    SERM works out cheaper for me anyway, so will stick with that I think.

    Does Bold aromatize much at all with regards to causing gyno problems or is it quite mild in that respect?

    Lastly, how long does it take Bold to kick-in, 3 weeks?

    Appreciate all the info given so far, as ever :)
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/17 11:53:49 (permalink)
    that would work out really expensive but if the price doesnt matter, then the minimal side effects are worth it imo.

    your talking about £230 for the cycle with the test booster and OTC PCT, but is the test booster really needed? without one and if a SERM is available you can cut that down to about £160 for a total of 11 weeks.

    im looking at EQ-Plex (same as bold) atm but id personally start at 600mg per day and adjust after 3-4weeks.
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/17 12:55:05 (permalink)
    Boldenone aromatises to 1-test.  A highly androgenic compound (7 times more-so than test)
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/17 14:57:47 (permalink)
    Cheers Daari, much appreciate your input as ever ;)

    Going to run 8 weeks 800mg I think, Nolva 21 day protocol and Cissus-drol for PCT, does that sound ok?

    Will see how I get on without a test booster whilst on-cycle...

    Am I right that it takes a good 3-4 weeks to kick in?
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/17 16:18:40 (permalink)
    danaj

    Cheers Daari, much appreciate your input as ever ;)

    Going to run 8 weeks 800mg I think, Nolva 21 day protocol and Cissus-drol for PCT, does that sound ok?

    Will see how I get on without a test booster whilst on-cycle...

    Am I right that it takes a good 3-4 weeks to kick in?

    any chance of a log?
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/17 17:10:25 (permalink)
    danaj

    Cheers Daari, much appreciate your input as ever ;)

    Going to run 8 weeks 800mg I think, Nolva 21 day protocol and Cissus-drol for PCT, does that sound ok?

    Will see how I get on without a test booster whilst on-cycle...

    Am I right that it takes a good 3-4 weeks to kick in?

     
    No probs.
     
    sounds fine.
     
    I still think the test booster is made redundant; so there really is no point in adding one anyway.
     
    It takes a while to kick in, but how long; i'm unsure....

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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/17 21:02:08 (permalink)
    Yes Jebus, I shall run a log once I start the cycle :)

    Will leave the test booster for now, will be costly enough as it is haha!

    Appreciate the input fellas, thanks very much indeed
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/20 15:17:30 (permalink)
    when are you planning on starting your cycle mate?
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/20 17:07:21 (permalink)
    It took about 4 weeks for me took really kick in but everyone is different. 8 weeks is a long time to supress your natural test and it will shut you down however mild you may think it is.
    When this happens you will lose your sex drive. Shut down is not neccessary a bad thing depending on which way you look at it. For a product to work it needs to surpress your to a degree and really is a good indication that your product is doing what it should overiding your natural test.

    The reason for the use of testabolan on cycle is really to help with libido and stimulate your natural test to stop complete shutdown which you will get after 8 weeks at 800mg.

    Im not trying to tell you what to do but inform to the best of my knowledge what ive read learn i will stand to be corrected thats not a problem.

    Just dont be surprised read as many reviews as you need to clear up what is likey to happen.
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/20 18:05:15 (permalink)
    8 weeks is not that bad when you look at the duration some run injectables

    Being 'shut-down' doesn't always necessitate losing one's libido or sex-drive

    Complete shut-down will most likely not occur with the compound in question and the dose which is intended
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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/20 21:06:38 (permalink)
    Maybe be not, but most injectables are run with test as a base. This keeps libido high and offsets the sides when run with other stacked injectables.

    8 weeks bold with this at 800mg with no test or no booster is certainly enough to shut you down and imo be a mistake. Bold is known to cause lathergy and lowers sex drive without any support is certainly
    not something most people want.

     im not counting shorter cycles in this as other may react different on shorter cycle of bold dont surpress htpa nearly as much as 8 week run.


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    Re:Bold 200 (Eq-Jet) + Test Booster - Advice Please 2009/07/20 23:39:23 (permalink)
    True.  But libido can rise with the use of exogenous hormones other than testosterone.

    Boldenone itself doesn't effect libido much, but it's 5AR metabolite does.  Dihydroboldenone (1-test) is known to kill one's libido.  This can be managed to some degree with the use of substances that compete for 5AR receptor sites
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