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2016/04/12 17:22:26 (permalink)

Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out

just a new thread to keep tabs on the media to see if they are giving the debate a fair appraisal and giving voters a fair crack at the pros and cons
 
checked the news today to see only fear headlines
 
http://news.sky.com/story/1677285/warning-over-crime-risk-if-uk-leaves-eu
 
http://news.sky.com/story/1677081/imf-warns-of-severe-economic-damage-of-brexit
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36024492
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36026641
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35855869
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36025821
 
be good if we can keep a score of the whether the main stream media wants to inform the voters or just scare the sh1t out of them to stay in
 
so starting today its 6-0 to the fear camp, if I would have started it a couple of weeks ago it would have been much higher as I haven't seen any positive 'out' headlines, but I think with the referendum coming up we should  keep a track of the fearmongering campaign gaining momentum. but bare in mind at that the BBC at least is owned by us an should represent anyone in particulars interests.
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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 17:41:59 (permalink)
Why no poll?
This will be an interesting thread, I envisage much debate.
I'm going to vote 'Out' but I'll say a little more when things start heating up a bit.
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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 17:49:51 (permalink)
How do people think the vote will go?
PaddyPower has odds for: Stay at 2/5 and Leave at 15/8.
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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 17:50:41 (permalink)
i'm with the out too but i fear it will be rigged
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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 17:58:07 (permalink)
I'm voting out and everyone else I know who's asked me have said the same. Can't see it being a yes to stay in not with what's happening and that leaflet they sent out states we can control our borders under the special deal we have haha I did laugh. 
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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 18:12:55 (permalink)
LOL! That's the same IMF that predicted doom if we didn't join the Eurozone, you just can't make it up.
 
I glad that 135,000 of the type 'right-on' middle class idiot that would vote 'remain' will be busy at Glastonbury on referendum day  
post edited by Dr Z - 2016/04/12 18:21:36

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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 18:16:13 (permalink)
I think the odds on 'Out' are big as all the latest polls show it neck and neck or even 'Out' slightly ahead. It feels like the public mood is for out to me, but then I do spend a lot of time in the comments section of right wing news sources such as Breitbart so am probably getting a skewed impression.
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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 18:25:55 (permalink)
The argument that really pisses me off is the "10 years of uncertainty" one  - Oh ok, we'll just surrender our democracy and sign over our sovereignty then shall we? 
 
  Its like telling a someone in an abusive relationship that they should stay with their partner because they'd have to rebuild their life, and that might be a bit of an effort, not be a bed of roses etc. 
 
If the EU is wrong for the country we need to get out, not stay in because it would be too much hassle to leave. 

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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 18:27:39 (permalink)
Everyone I know (apart from me) seems to be in the stay camp. People are scared of change.
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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 18:50:05 (permalink)
In the event you do exit, what is the likelihood that GB will do a separate trade deal with Ireland? Loss of the common market with one of our biggest trading partners seems to be the main concern over here about an out vote.

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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 18:59:38 (permalink)
Its funny Doc how much you talk about this, yet anyone the would have a legitimate concern that speaks about it, is clearly in the "fear" campaign.
 
ALso, if you hate those news sources so much, why don't you ignore them and post from other better sources to spread a more balanced view?
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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 19:10:51 (permalink)
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In the event you do exit, what is the likelihood that GB will do a separate trade deal with Ireland? Loss of the common market with one of our biggest trading partners seems to be the main concern over here about an out vote.

I think Ireland would still be bound by E.U. rules. and can't negotiate separate deals independent of the E.U.
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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 19:21:13 (permalink)
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In the event you do exit, what is the likelihood that GB will do a separate trade deal with Ireland? Loss of the common market with one of our biggest trading partners seems to be the main concern over here about an out vote.

I think Ireland would still be bound by E.U. rules. and can't negotiate separate deals independent of the E.U.


Can't it? Can we not have separate trade deals with the US for example? I'm genuinely asking because I really have no idea.

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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 19:30:22 (permalink)
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In the event you do exit, what is the likelihood that GB will do a separate trade deal with Ireland? Loss of the common market with one of our biggest trading partners seems to be the main concern over here about an out vote.

I think Ireland would still be bound by E.U. rules. and can't negotiate separate deals independent of the E.U.


Can't it? Can we not have separate trade deals with the US for example? I'm genuinely asking because I really have no idea.

"It also emphasises that the UK and the Republic of Ireland could not do a bilateral trade deal as Ireland would be bound by wider EU policy."
Taken from here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-35931010
I need to read up more myself though...
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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 19:33:58 (permalink)
I no longer read it. I will vote to leave, I'll try and tell anyone who wants to talk about it to leave but I no longer read news outlets that have a slanted view. Used to read the mail while Labour was in but the way they backed Cameron no matter what stopped me reading that as well.

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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 20:14:37 (permalink)
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Its funny Doc how much you talk about this, yet anyone the would have a legitimate concern that speaks about it, is clearly in the "fear" campaign.
 
ALso, if you hate those news sources so much, why don't you ignore them and post from other better sources to spread a more balanced view?


I think you missed the entire objective of this thread which is to keep tabs on "main stream media " news outlets  , tabloid press / most watched news channels just to see if they are giving both sides of the debate the same airtime and to help te voter make a decision rather than use fear.
 
I have no problem with David Cameron wanting to stay in , its his opinion.
I have no problem with Farage/Hannan wanting to leave, thats there opinion, do you not think these people have legitimate fears of staying in ?
 
But only one opinion is hittng the headlines , me ignoring these news outlets isnt going to help the general population make an informed decision is it ?
 
 
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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 22:10:46 (permalink)
Most people lack balls and the courage of their convictions.
 
I think the bookies odds take this into account quite a bit.
 
I'm shocked that a "Europhobia" tag as not been hatched to bully people into dropping their bottle.
 
 
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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/12 23:46:57 (permalink)
I'm getting flashbacks to the Scottish independence referendum. It's all the exact same things near enough that was being said during indyref. The arguements are almost the same, but the roles are reversed. Those who were against Scottish independence, are for leaving the EU, yet those who wanted Scottish independence are against it.
 
I'll be voting to stay.
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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/13 01:14:15 (permalink)
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I'm getting flashbacks to the Scottish independence referendum. It's all the exact same things near enough that was being said during indyref. The arguements are almost the same, but the roles are reversed. Those who were against Scottish independence, are for leaving the EU, yet those who wanted Scottish independence are against it.
 
I'll be voting to stay.


If someone had predicted the drop in revenue we have seen with the falling oil price that would have been see as major scaremongering. Funny aint it?
The ones who wanted independence were desperate to give it all away to join the EU.

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Re: Brexit media fearmongering , In/Out 2016/04/13 09:14:06 (permalink)
The EU can go **** themselves. That's from someone who grew up in France and lives here in winter. Lazy commie bastards. Rule Britannia !!!! Scaremongers can also fck off they are probably the same men who sit down to piss and wear skinny jeans!!!

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