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2009/08/01 15:50:59 (permalink)
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Question for a builder or someone who has done something similar. I know you cant tell me exactly how much without looking at my garage but anyways ..

I want to make the very basic changes to my garage so someone could have it as a bed-room for a few years.
I dont want a full conversion (as its expensive and the persons new bedroom it would be , will only be living there a few years)
Im assuming the most basic things would be to insulate the walls and put some sort of flooring in.
How much would something like this cost (estimated) and is it really possible on the cheap?

Thanks for any input !

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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 16:22:18 (permalink)
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needs building regs, you will have to wall up the door, obviously.  could probably be done for 5-6k for a rear budget job.
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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 18:15:38 (permalink)☄ Helpful
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I'll go against the professional builder's advice and say that I did mine myself for just over a grand including building regs. That included knocking the wall from house to garage through, putting in a lintel, matching the floor heights by flowing concrete, taking out the garage door and double skin bricking it up, DPC, sellatex (spelling?) insulation, getting an electrician in to put in sunken spots, building a cupboard for the gas meter, plasterboards, plastering the walls, laying carpet, installing 8 double power sockets, a fan/light combo, six spot-lights, dimmer switch, putting in a double-glazed window with a certain opening size to satisfy regs, bull-nose window ledge, 5 inch skirting all round and fitting a door between house/garage conversion.

EDIT: additionally paid a plumber to fit my radiator, which involved flowing some new pipework in. Cost £200 including radiator IIRC.

Did it all to have a purpose-built cinema room.

Here's some pics mate:


post edited by rightyho - 2009/08/01 18:17:33
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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 18:20:00 (permalink)
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Wow nice work mate .. Seems very cheap for what it looks like

If i can do half as good for that for about a grand i'd be happy :)

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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 18:22:34 (permalink)
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Oh, remembered I had to pay £90 to have the coving put up as well.

So, just shy of £1300.

Biggest sweat was making sure the room dimensions took the sofa I'd already bought.

Did most of the work in my lounge and diner cheap, too.





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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 18:25:53 (permalink)
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rightyho

I'll go against the professional builder's advice and say that I did mine myself for just over a grand including building regs. That included knocking the wall from house to garage through, putting in a lintel, matching the floor heights by flowing concrete, taking out the garage door and double skin bricking it up, DPC, sellatex (spelling?) insulation, getting an electrician in to put in sunken spots, building a cupboard for the gas meter, plasterboards, plastering the walls, laying carpet, installing 8 double power sockets, a fan/light combo, six spot-lights, dimmer switch, putting in a double-glazed window with a certain opening size to satisfy regs, bull-nose window ledge, 5 inch skirting all round and fitting a door between house/garage conversion.

EDIT: additionally paid a plumber to fit my radiator, which involved flowing some new pipework in. Cost £200 including radiator IIRC.

Did it all to have a purpose-built cinema room.

Here's some pics mate:




looks nice mate
 
obviously if you do it yourself its going to work out alot cheaper!
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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 18:32:18 (permalink)
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go and buy collins diy book and have a good read ,im sure u can do most of the work yourself , and get tradesmen in for the stuff u cant do and youll save yourself a few pound
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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 18:33:21 (permalink)
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Tidy setup there mate, how the bloody hell did you get the sofa in though!!!

*sit's here jealous of Rightyho's xbox 360/projector setup*

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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 18:37:46 (permalink)
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With me being what seems to be the uber stinge bag of MT regrding building work...

I think you done very well for that price righty

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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 18:45:30 (permalink)
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PatWelsh

Tidy setup there mate, how the bloody hell did you get the sofa in though!!!

*sit's here jealous of Rightyho's xbox 360/projector setup*


There's a 3 inch gap to the left wall, mate, enough space to pull the recliner handle out. The door I put in for the room was a disabled-width door as I wanted it to have that option ie downstairs room for disabled when I sold it, so the sofa came in that way no probs.

The back of the sofa comes off to let you move it into place- but was a cokc to reassemble as I couldn't get in behind the sofa - so had to build it blind while standing on the sofa seats. Lol. Not.

Reckon the house work, between decking, back yard, front drive, lounge, dining room and cinema room would be about £15k from a good builder.

Got it all done for £5400 by either doing it myself or getting good, handy mates in.

So saved about 10 grand.
post edited by rightyho - 2009/08/01 18:46:57
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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 18:49:06 (permalink)
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Next project is a dwarf wall conservatory secondhand from ebay. Will involve stripping out part of the garden and moving the existing decking, as well as building the dwarf wall, reassembling what was dismantled, plastering, wiring, floor, tiles, etc.

Reckon I'll have a 4m x 4m Edwardian-style conservatory up and totally finished, including blinds and furniture for £1400.
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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 18:53:57 (permalink)
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rightyho

Next project is a dwarf wall conservatory secondhand from ebay. Will involve stripping out part of the garden and moving the existing decking, as well as building the dwarf wall, reassembling what was dismantled, plastering, wiring, floor, tiles, etc.

Reckon I'll have a 4m x 4m Edwardian-style conservatory up and totally finished, including blinds and furniture for £1400.


now thats value for money right there! an easy saving of ten grand from some of the conservatory companies
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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 18:54:16 (permalink)
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PS - dvdman did the projector and screen for me. I did the cable tieing.
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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 18:58:23 (permalink)
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dazc

rightyho

Next project is a dwarf wall conservatory secondhand from ebay. Will involve stripping out part of the garden and moving the existing decking, as well as building the dwarf wall, reassembling what was dismantled, plastering, wiring, floor, tiles, etc.

Reckon I'll have a 4m x 4m Edwardian-style conservatory up and totally finished, including blinds and furniture for £1400.


now thats value for money right there! an easy saving of ten grand from some of the conservatory companies


Secondhand conservatories go for as little as £300 on ebay mate - people usually building extensions and just want rid.
I'm after a three dwarf-wall one with a solid side wall.
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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 19:21:50 (permalink)
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Done a few gargae convversions myself.

last year I did one for a guy who didn't want to lose the garage door and wanted to keep about 6ft at the front to keep his bikes etc...so

I lifted the floor with timber joists, cellatex inbetween then chipboard flooring, put a stud wall up to form the end wall and fitted a fire door and mortice lock. Cut the hole out and fitted door and frame arcs etc to provide access to his house. removed the back door and window of the garage and replced with UPVC french doors, built a cupbord around his bolier and fit door to the front. Gave him 4 power points and a TV point, plaster board and skimmed...altered the lighting, dropped heatinbg pipes down from above and fit new rad, skirted.....then fit an oak floor (which he supplied)...all materials were supplied by me....That was 6k and took 3 blokes 5 days. He did have a quoite of 3k but didn't trust the guy and also had a quote of 11k which both him and me laughed at.

I did well out of that job tbh
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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 19:23:51 (permalink)
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did some minor works in his house for that 6k too.....pipe boxing in his bog and some skirting to his lounge
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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 19:24:35 (permalink)
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Looks good Righty, nice one
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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 19:25:42 (permalink)
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I toyed with the idea of leaving a motorbike-sized bit at the front, too but it was cutting it close for space.

Quite a few people have them done like you did it Neb, don't they?
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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 19:33:37 (permalink)
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yes mate...done about 4 like that
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Re:Builders/people in the know 2009/08/01 19:42:46 (permalink)
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Nice house righty...

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