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Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/08 19:07:07 (permalink)
Still a thief and a scum bag.  He is also not a very smart criminal if he tells you about it!! 
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Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/10 14:33:05 (permalink)
Back when I was burgled (it's a topic on here from a few years back) the burglars brief tried to defend his clients actions on the basis of my living in what was a commercial building (I got change of use after). The main issue was he would have been done on the three strike rule as he'd done two residential properties before and being **** he'd been caught then as well. The courts do seem them differently as do juries (I can say that from looking at the jury when I have my evidence).

 
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Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/13 13:23:48 (permalink)
I can see the difference in that burgling someone's home is likely to have more of a psychological impact on the people living there.

However stealing is stealing and they should get slammed for either.
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Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/13 13:39:04 (permalink)
It's stealing end of. 

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Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/14 11:54:32 (permalink)
The way Criminals square things off in their minds is a constant source of amusement for me,  Something I think would make a great book, if someone could take the time to interview them and gather examples. I don't think they really believe their justifications are sound, they simply need something to cling on to rather than admit they are worthless scum.  
 
I know someone who would happily sell cocaine to kids, and would say "I'd rather they bought it from me than from some scumbag who might take advantage of them".  This person also judged everyone around them to ridiculous standards over petty little things.  
 
All I saw was the someone who is the dregs of society, in desperate denial.  
 
 

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Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/14 12:12:33 (permalink)
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The way Criminals square things off in their minds is a constant source of amusement for me,  Something I think would make a great book, if someone could take the time to interview them and gather examples. I don't think they really believe their justifications are sound, they simply need something to cling on to rather than admit they are worthless scum.  
 
I know someone who would happily sell cocaine to kids, and would say "I'd rather they bought it from me than from some scumbag who might take advantage of them".  This person also judged everyone around them to ridiculous standards over petty little things.  
 
All I saw was the someone who is the dregs of society, in desperate denial.  
 
 


 
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Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/14 19:28:37 (permalink)
Morals are conditional. They change over time, they change through history and they change according to our needs.
 
There are times when most of us would not dream of doing a house theft. But if you're hooked on drugs that's been and gone double quick. You can look up historical records and see just what people will do in times of war and when they are hungry.
 
Where we struggle with understanding the criminal mind is there isn't a war on, half are on benefits and can get help with drug issues. There's some argument for nuture so how they've been brought up and their background can move their morals about.

 
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Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/14 21:11:49 (permalink)
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Morals are conditional. They change over time, they change through history and they change according to our needs.
 
There are times when most of us would not dream of doing a house theft. But if you're hooked on drugs that's been and gone double quick. You can look up historical records and see just what people will do in times of war and when they are hungry.
 
Where we struggle with understanding the criminal mind is there isn't a war on, half are on benefits and can get help with drug issues. There's some argument for nuture so how they've been brought up and their background can move their morals about.


I don't disagree with any of that but I've got a fairly bleak opinion of people unfortunately.

Under the right circumstances most people will do anything to anyone if it's in their interests and they think they can get away with it.

I always laugh when I hear statistics claiming that only 1% of the population are sociopaths. I'd say that percentage is much much higher.
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Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/15 08:19:02 (permalink)
I agree 100% Trunks. And, without going deep, I know it just from my own personal moral shifts.
 
The other aspect is part of what we do is make ourselves feel better than others. Even criminals do it.

 
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