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2017/09/07 10:52:20 (permalink)

Burgling a home versus a business?

I know a chap who claims to be a burglar. I have no reason to doubt what he tells me but it could be bollox.
 
However, he makes a really big deal about never burgling peoples homes and only ever burgling businesses and commercial premises.
 
He views going into someones home as a violation of peoples personal space and claims that he's morally opposed to it.
 
Does this make him in anyway better in your eyes? I struggle to see the distinction really. Sure, people may not live at their place of business but does that really make it any less of a violation?
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    kinghelmet
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/07 10:58:20 (permalink)
    Nope, a**hole if you ask me. People work hard, just because you cant be bothered to gives you no reason to go and take what doesn't belong to you. 
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/07 11:01:45 (permalink)
    Does he not realise he's still affect the people's livelihood? A business could be in trouble and his actions could tip them over the edge! Who's to say the business will have insurance, maybe they're too skint to pay out. If he robs a shop, how does he know that the person working that day doesn't have to fork out the short fall from their wages? 
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/07 11:30:06 (permalink)
    He's scum. He wont be robbing a faceless corporation, it will be a tattoo shop or some such and it will cause huge distress and financial loss to all involved.
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/07 11:44:10 (permalink)
    teapot
    He's scum. He wont be robbing a faceless corporation, it will be a tattoo shop or some such and it will cause huge distress and financial loss to all involved.




     
    This ^^^^^
     
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/07 11:59:27 (permalink)
    No difference at all IMO.  Funny how criminals use this warped moral logic to justify their actions.  I work in prisons & come across this mindset regularly, for example fraudsters look down on armed robbers, armed robbers look down on those who've mugged old ladies, those who've mugged old ladies look down on the rapists, the rapists look down on the paedophiles & on it goes.
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/07 12:41:24 (permalink)
    I'm not sure how close you are with this guy but if he's that open about it and claims the morale high ground maybe you should anomalously report him to the police? 
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/07 12:56:54 (permalink)
    Those kind of career choices never end well

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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/07 13:08:15 (permalink)
    kinghelmet
    I'm not sure how close you are with this guy but if he's that open about it and claims the morale high ground maybe you should anomalously report him to the police? 




    Not close to him at all. Although I can virtually guarantee that without any evidence or solid intel as to where he's likely to strike next the police wouldn't be remotely interested.
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/07 13:26:04 (permalink)
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    kinghelmet
    I'm not sure how close you are with this guy but if he's that open about it and claims the morale high ground maybe you should anomalously report him to the police? 




    Not close to him at all. Although I can virtually guarantee that without any evidence or solid intel as to where he's likely to strike next the police wouldn't be remotely interested.




    Thats exactly what will happen if you did report him. police wont be interested and if you do have solid evidence, theyll be too slow to act and by the time they do, too late.
     
    I was victim of a scam a couple of years ago - reported the crime on the day it happened. It involved email, phone records but most importantly tranfering money to a UK bank account.
     
    It took the police so long to do anytime it was too latet to draw any evidence from CCTV where the person used the money to withdraw the cash from ATM and without the the police responded by shutting the case down becuase they didnt have evidence the person knew the money was from criminal proceeds.....i mean wtf! seriously.
     
    it was clear cut obtaining money by deception but becuase it was a relatively small ammount the police where not interested.
     
    Same thing would happen here really.

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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/07 15:47:36 (permalink)
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    kinghelmet
    I'm not sure how close you are with this guy but if he's that open about it and claims the morale high ground maybe you should anomalously report him to the police? 




    Not close to him at all. Although I can virtually guarantee that without any evidence or solid intel as to where he's likely to strike next the police wouldn't be remotely interested.




    Thats exactly what will happen if you did report him. police wont be interested and if you do have solid evidence, theyll be too slow to act and by the time they do, too late.
     
    I was victim of a scam a couple of years ago - reported the crime on the day it happened. It involved email, phone records but most importantly tranfering money to a UK bank account.
     
    It took the police so long to do anytime it was too latet to draw any evidence from CCTV where the person used the money to withdraw the cash from ATM and without the the police responded by shutting the case down becuase they didnt have evidence the person knew the money was from criminal proceeds.....i mean wtf! seriously.
     
    it was clear cut obtaining money by deception but becuase it was a relatively small ammount the police where not interested.
     
    Same thing would happen here really.




    I know a guy who had a knife pulled on him in an attempted mugging. The mugger didn't realise that my mate actually knew him and where he lived. He told the bloke he didn't have any money and he showed him his empty wallet before he would leave him alone. Then he went to the police fully believing that they'd be happy to have a victim of crime who had two witnesses, who knew the name of the assailant and where he lived.  But the guy at the front desk of the police station just said "at least you're ok, that's the main thing" and told him they weren't prepared to do anything about it as he hadn't actually been attacked or injured.
     
    I certainly don't think the police have an easy job and I do understand that they have to prioritise their caseload but I couldn't help but wonder why they weren't interested in a slamdunk like that.
     
     
    post edited by Trunks - 2017/09/07 15:48:49
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/07 17:22:44 (permalink)
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    No difference at all IMO.  Funny how criminals use this warped moral logic to justify their actions.  I



    i remember when a pair of maggots got into a cop car chase at the Meadowell and turned themselves into a lamp post barbecue ~ fktwit of a father was on tv vigorously denying they were joyridrers; they were out robbing. shoulda hoyed him in the fire too.
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/08 11:49:17 (permalink)
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    kinghelmet
    I'm not sure how close you are with this guy but if he's that open about it and claims the morale high ground maybe you should anomalously report him to the police? 




    Not close to him at all. Although I can virtually guarantee that without any evidence or solid intel as to where he's likely to strike next the police wouldn't be remotely interested.




    Thats exactly what will happen if you did report him. police wont be interested and if you do have solid evidence, theyll be too slow to act and by the time they do, too late.
     
    I was victim of a scam a couple of years ago - reported the crime on the day it happened. It involved email, phone records but most importantly tranfering money to a UK bank account.
     
    It took the police so long to do anytime it was too latet to draw any evidence from CCTV where the person used the money to withdraw the cash from ATM and without the the police responded by shutting the case down becuase they didnt have evidence the person knew the money was from criminal proceeds.....i mean wtf! seriously.
     
    it was clear cut obtaining money by deception but becuase it was a relatively small ammount the police where not interested.
     
    Same thing would happen here really.




    I know a guy who had a knife pulled on him in an attempted mugging. The mugger didn't realise that my mate actually knew him and where he lived. He told the bloke he didn't have any money and he showed him his empty wallet before he would leave him alone. Then he went to the police fully believing that they'd be happy to have a victim of crime who had two witnesses, who knew the name of the assailant and where he lived.  But the guy at the front desk of the police station just said "at least you're ok, that's the main thing" and told him they weren't prepared to do anything about it as he hadn't actually been attacked or injured.
     
    I certainly don't think the police have an easy job and I do understand that they have to prioritise their caseload but I couldn't help but wonder why they weren't interested in a slamdunk like that.
     
     


    That's pretty crazy, almost a guaranteed conviction and aren't interested? Maybe it's because the resources are so stretched unless it's seen as a "serious" incident then they won't allocate resources to that? Or are they just inefficient? 
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/08 12:14:02 (permalink)
    Country's in a terrible mess policing wise. We were speaking to a worker in our local supermarket who have just got rid of their security guard. The police won't come out or arrest anyone shoplifting below £20 so the workers have been told to just let them go lol.

    On the doors we have dealt with numerous fights where there has been excellent CCTV footage in all cases the police either turn up the following week and don't want anything to do with it (often reasonably serious assaults) or when they do come the same night (where the venue owner or assaulted person calls them) they just let the attacker go lol.

    My partner has been assaulted twice and both times the police have exerted constant pressure on her not to take it any further. So it's dealt with by other means.
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/08 13:05:11 (permalink)
    The courts do make the distinction. A domestic burglary will get you longer than a commercial one.
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/08 13:11:48 (permalink)
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    The courts do make the distinction. A domestic burglary will get you longer than a commercial one.


    That's interesting. I had no idea.
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/08 13:34:51 (permalink)
    I see some labour mp is calling for folk from "minorities" to not be prosecuted for criminal behaviour bacuse minorities make up the greater number of prison inmates, he's made findings for the govt to look at.....one wonders if not commiting crime at all was a finding ūü§Ē

    Of course this isn't a first world problem and people like me should shut their mouths, like the molested girls in R'Ham.

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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/08 16:35:06 (permalink)
    As others have said, online crime is not interesting to the Police.
     
    Had our card details done, plane tickets and mobile phone tops ups bought everywhere.
     
    Police not interested at all.
     
    Spanish Police said they would arrest the person when the plane landed (we traced a ticket and the plane was in flight) but needed a crime number from the UK Police.
     
    Police very much not interested after hearing this and told us to claim the £thousands back and forget the matter.
     
    Phone Scotland Yard counter terror unit and not interested at all and not happy I phoned them.
     
    They were puzzled why I called?  
     
     
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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/08 17:48:17 (permalink)
    Police won't be interested in internet fraud, and most fraud at that, it's just so minor, and 9 times out of 10 will be wasted time, unless you're talking massive amounts of fraud, the banks are left to deal with it, and they do a pretty good job 95% of time ime.

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    Re: Burgling a home versus a business? 2017/09/08 18:52:44 (permalink)
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    As others have said, online crime is not interesting to the Police.
     
    Had our card details done, plane tickets and mobile phone tops ups bought everywhere.
     
    Police not interested at all.
     
    Spanish Police said they would arrest the person when the plane landed (we traced a ticket and the plane was in flight) but needed a crime number from the UK Police.
     
    Police very much not interested after hearing this and told us to claim the £thousands back and forget the matter.
     
    Phone Scotland Yard counter terror unit and not interested at all and not happy I phoned them.
     
    They were puzzled why I called?  
     
     


    Why would you contact the anti terror squad over fraud?
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