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2008/05/19 21:43:05 (permalink)
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does cee cause kidney damage?

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    RE: CEE 2008/05/20 18:20:25 (permalink)

    "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true."
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    RE: CEE 2008/05/24 17:13:11 (permalink)
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    Does anyone use CEE? I want to know what it is like before I buy it, ive been advised on Alri CR2 butr not so sure now :S

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    RE: CEE 2008/05/24 17:31:07 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Irons

    Does anyone use CEE? I want to know what it is like before I buy it, ive been advised on Alri CR2 butr not so sure now :S


    Tried it, didn't work, went back to trusty Mono. And mono tastes better.

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    RE: CEE 2008/05/24 17:32:43 (permalink)
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    Thanks a lot fatboyginger, im pretty new to all these materials I was just a natural builder before, can you reccomend any good mono creatine?

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    RE: CEE 2008/05/24 17:41:33 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Irons

    Thanks a lot fatboyginger, im pretty new to all these materials I was just a natural builder before, can you reccomend any good mono creatine?


    Creatine is natural (it's found in red meat). You still are a natural bodybuilder if you go on creatine.
    Myprotein.co.uk is good for mono as its cheap and micronized(smaller molecules).
    If I were you, I would buy 300g for one 8 week cycle, taking 5g of mono per day, and 7g for the first week. If it goes well then you can look at buying some more.
    The problem is about 20-30% of people don't "respond" to creatine, which means it has no effect on them. You don't want to buy a load to find out its useless for you.

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    RE: CEE 2008/05/24 17:45:07 (permalink)
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    Thanks, I will have a look on now, so if I dont respond there is nothing I can really do to help? (sorry if these questions seem a bit basic)

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    RE: CEE 2008/05/24 17:51:54 (permalink)
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    Sorry for another one but im amazed at how cheap monohydrate is on the site, I was going to be paying 20 quid for 500g. I am definitly buyin from there.

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    RE: CEE 2008/05/24 17:57:42 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Irons

    Thanks, I will have a look on now, so if I dont respond there is nothing I can really do to help? (sorry if these questions seem a bit basic)


    Not really tbh, it may be because you have naturally high levels of Creatine so supplementation is not necessary.
    And 300g will set you back a fiver, so it won't matter if you don't respond.

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    RE: CEE 2008/05/24 18:07:31 (permalink)
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    What signs will I see if I respond? more reps and pumps, would I see a noticeable increase in muscle size in a shorter time than without?

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    RE: CEE 2008/05/25 18:09:44 (permalink)
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    Yes to all apart from pumps - it won't really have an effect on that - if you're looking to get pumped then you need an NO supplement.
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    RE: CEE 2008/05/25 18:55:21 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: FatboyGinger


    ORIGINAL: Irons

    Thanks, I will have a look on now, so if I dont respond there is nothing I can really do to help? (sorry if these questions seem a bit basic)


    Not really tbh, it may be because you have naturally high levels of Creatine so supplementation is not necessary.
    And 300g will set you back a fiver, so it won't matter if you don't respond.

    To be honest, I find this a bit misleading.

    I'm a complete mono non-responder - the only times I've ever felt any benefit from mono, is when I took it with vast amounts of low-GI carbs (e.g. the first time I used Cell Tech as a teen).

    Since then I've tried lots of different creatines, and CEE, MCC and Creatine Gluconate were for me, revelations. Those products gave me the benefits some of my friends had had from mono, that I didn't.

    If you don't respond to mono, you may just be a mono non-responder, and CEE is worth a try. I know personally, I get nothing from mono unless it's mixed with 50-70g of dextrose or similar post-workout. However, I get all the benefits of creatine WITHOUT taking the carbs if I use CEE. I can think of 5 or 6 CEE / MCC products that gave me great benefits, all of which came without the massive amount of carbs needed to get benefits from mono.

    Basically, try a cheap mono first, if that doesn't work, more advanced creatine bonding types may do - and even if you did respond to mono, you may respond better (and certainly without the extra calories) from CEE / MCC / Creatine gluconate etc.

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    RE: CEE 2008/05/25 18:58:14 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Irons

    Thanks, I will have a look on now, so if I dont respond there is nothing I can really do to help? (sorry if these questions seem a bit basic)

    Some people respond well to some types of creatine, but not others. I personally don't respond to mono, unless taken with vast amounts of sugary carbs, I do however respond very well to CEE and a few other types of creatine. My best ever creatine cycle was using Gaspair SizeOn, which for me (if I was to put a number on it) gave me 5x the benefits I felt from any other product before then (e.g. various mono and CEE only products). Some creatine products now contain multiple different types of creatine bond - from mono, to CEE, to MCC, to CG etc. ....and after that, there's even Kre-Alkayln, which I've never tried so won't delve into.

    If you don't respond to mono, you may respond to other types. I did.

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    RE: CEE 2008/05/25 19:39:02 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the help, its much appreciated :)

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