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Mick of Gateshead
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2014/11/23 18:04:33 (permalink)

Caffeine Content

Seems the amount being put in pre workouts is getting a bit ridiculous now and quite frankly I cant think it being very safe. Are people really taking the recommened does that are advertised in some of them, I purchased ripped freak and that is 250mg scoop but it says take upto 2 scoops for one serving 500mg
 
Just had an email off a sponsor of this site advertising one of the pre workouts and that has 550mg of caffiene in it. If you are needing that amount to get the desired effect its time to take a month or so off and get back to a lower safer dose.
 
WHats the most people are taking at the moment, I still get the desired effect on 250mg which I still consider quite high.
 
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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/23 18:09:12 (permalink)
This is the best one I have seen:
 
http://www.iloveprotein.co.uk/insane-gain.html
 
Note that per 5g scoop there's 500mg of caffeine. Then it reads:
 
"Do not exceed 15g in one serving"
 
That implies that you can take up to 3 scoops. 3 scoops = 1500mg!

 
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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/23 18:12:44 (permalink)
I half a 100mg caffeine tab for upper sessions. Or half a scoop of a pre-workout for Oly sessions. I take a full scoop if tired, but would avoid anything over 200mg. It just isn't needed.

I used to double scoop them when I was around 60kg and go nuts lol. Which messed with my sleep and I'm sure it had a negative affect overall.

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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/23 18:21:00 (permalink)
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This is the best one I have seen:
 
http://www.iloveprotein.co.uk/insane-gain.html
 
Note that per 5g scoop there's 500mg of caffeine. Then it reads:
 
"Do not exceed 15g in one serving"
 
That implies that you can take up to 3 scoops. 3 scoops = 1500mg!




Wow check that 1 out!!!!
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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/23 19:16:42 (permalink)
600mg. Minimal kick some days. Decent other days. I know I need to take a break. Might start tomorrow. But it is legs lol. No, I've had perfectly good workouts caffeine free. It's probably just a bad habit now at this stage.
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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/23 19:23:22 (permalink)
Never go over 200mg personally, so see no need at at all for any pre wo to contain more.

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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/23 20:47:15 (permalink)
Usually have 7/8 cups of instant  coffee at breakfast then train. Not sure how much caffeine that is tho.







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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/23 21:07:00 (permalink)
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Usually have 7/8 cups of instant  coffee at breakfast then train. Not sure how much caffeine that is tho.


1g total at least I'd have thought
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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/23 21:22:20 (permalink)
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I know I need to take a break. Might start tomorrow.



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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/23 22:03:18 (permalink)
I am cutting back on the caffeine from tomorrow; well I will taper down the first week and then cut right back the week after - cold turkey is not a good idea with caffeine.
 
I have been super busy at work and have been having a large Costa with added shot twice a day and I am starting to feel a little bit 'wrong'.
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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/23 22:08:41 (permalink)
Mick of Gateshead
Seems the amount being put in pre workouts is getting a bit ridiculous now and quite frankly I cant think it being very safe. Are people really taking the recommened does that are advertised in some of them, I purchased ripped freak and that is 250mg scoop but it says take upto 2 scoops for one serving 500mg
 
Just had an email off a sponsor of this site advertising one of the pre workouts and that has 550mg of caffiene in it. If you are needing that amount to get the desired effect its time to take a month or so off and get back to a lower safer dose.
 
WHats the most people are taking at the moment, I still get the desired effect on 250mg which I still consider quite high.
 
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completely agree. i'll now have a double espresso before working out, it's still a fair whack of caffeine, but i got that exact email and was staggered at that amount.
 
another board sponsor have a pre-workout in america & canada only and the caffeine's hidden in a prop blend but is a minimum of 550mg per 2 scoops with only 2 ingredients, with caffeine being the largest. the prop blend is 1.1g per 2 scoops, so it's anywhere between 550mg at the lowest end up to a potentially whopping 1.08g of caffeine per 2 scoops.
 
i feel like the caffeine content of pre-workouts will keep on rising until something unfortunate happens, as in someone dying. it might sound a bit extreme, but we've very quickly got to the point where people are demanding more and more and when 500mg+ isn't enough, you'll start getting companies selling pre-workouts which will be nothing more than flavoured caffeine powder.
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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/23 22:28:18 (permalink)
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I know I need to take a break. Might start tomorrow.



That deserves its own progress journal.


Ha ha ha! It might end tomorrow too though lol
Waking up at 5ish....the urge to "pop a few" is quite strong tbh.
But genuinely might give them a miss in the morning and see how I go.
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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/23 22:30:21 (permalink)
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Seems the amount being put in pre workouts is getting a bit ridiculous now and quite frankly I cant think it being very safe. Are people really taking the recommened does that are advertised in some of them, I purchased ripped freak and that is 250mg scoop but it says take upto 2 scoops for one serving 500mg
 
Just had an email off a sponsor of this site advertising one of the pre workouts and that has 550mg of caffiene in it. If you are needing that amount to get the desired effect its time to take a month or so off and get back to a lower safer dose.
 
WHats the most people are taking at the moment, I still get the desired effect on 250mg which I still consider quite high.
 
Mick


completely agree. i'll now have a double espresso before working out, it's still a fair whack of caffeine, but i got that exact email and was staggered at that amount.
 
another board sponsor have a pre-workout in america & canada only and the caffeine's hidden in a prop blend but is a minimum of 550mg per 2 scoops with only 2 ingredients, with caffeine being the largest. the prop blend is 1.1g per 2 scoops, so it's anywhere between 550mg at the lowest end up to a potentially whopping 1.08g of caffeine per 2 scoops.
 
i feel like the caffeine content of pre-workouts will keep on rising until something unfortunate happens, as in someone dying. it might sound a bit extreme, but we've very quickly got to the point where people are demanding more and more and when 500mg+ isn't enough, you'll start getting companies selling pre-workouts which will be nothing more than flavoured caffeine powder.


 
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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/24 08:54:24 (permalink)
Its gone bonkers now. We always used to have a couple of coffees or even a bit off ephedrine for a kick up the ass when training hard, but its gone well beyond that. A lot of guys simply can't go in the gym without being wired, sweats/shakes/nausea - even throwing up. ... and thats not for a special "hardcore" effort, thats just to chat, text and do a few kickbacks!
       Its like when you go out, there's always one who can't have fun without being so off their face that they make a twat of themselves. 
       It's funny, all the sensible folk used to suggest a 200mg dose limit on Caffeine, I suspect that wouldn't touch the sides for a lot of gym lads now.

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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/24 08:59:59 (permalink)
Well none this morning. Still had a great workout. Just nice to feel a bit jacked sometimes
But when it's not much at 600mg you know you need a break!
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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/24 09:10:12 (permalink)
I take a 200mg caffeine tablet before I train but that's because I train at 6am and got fed up with making a strong coffee and trying to cool it down so I could neck it.
 
I feel fine from this but now skip my first coffee at work as it felt too much once I'd had a couple of coffees on top of the tab.
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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/24 11:10:52 (permalink)
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I take a 200mg caffeine tablet before I train but that's because I train at 6am and got fed up with making a strong coffee and trying to cool it down so I could neck it.
 
I feel fine from this but now skip my first coffee at work as it felt too much once I'd had a couple of coffees on top of the tab.


Could always try adding a bit of that wet stuff from the cold water tap 😉
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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/24 11:17:54 (permalink)
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I take a 200mg caffeine tablet before I train but that's because I train at 6am and got fed up with making a strong coffee and trying to cool it down so I could neck it.
 
I feel fine from this but now skip my first coffee at work as it felt too much once I'd had a couple of coffees on top of the tab.


Could always try adding a bit of that wet stuff from the cold water tap 😉



I did but it's just a faff and ends up not tasting very nice.  A caffeine tablet is just easier.  Plus I have it at the side of my bed as soon as I wake so it's get an extra 10 minutes or so to take effect.
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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/24 11:44:45 (permalink)
I have been two weeks caffeine free, Trying to let my Adrenal glands recover.
Thought would be easy but so far its been as difficult as anything else that I have given up.
Cant say that I have noticed any improvement in my natural energy levels so far.
But I was feeling pretty burnt out before.
 Yuri Elkaim has some good information on what caffeine does.

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Re: Caffeine Content 2014/11/24 15:19:42 (permalink)
I covered safe intakes in Part 2 of my article: http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/articles/article-caffeine-bodybuilding-2.aspx

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