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2015/02/04 22:13:24 (permalink)
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Can someone aware me on staying on for life/coming off

I'm a noob so go easy on me k, I've always assumed that once you're on you're on and it's very hard if not impossible to get everything in check once your off. And you will most likely lose all the gains you made while you were on.

How does this come into play when adding other compounds to your stack? So for example someone who has been running test for a while decides to add in some tren to his cycle, will he lose all his gains made while on the tren if he decides to cut it out the stack down the road ?

Sorry if this is a stupid question I'm just curious
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Re: Can someone aware me on staying on for life/coming off 2015/02/05 04:34:16 (permalink)
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1st questions would be 
 
how old and experienced with AAS are you
 
And  are you ever going to want Kids ? 
 
Are you sure you want to inject for the rest of your life are you that committed to bodybuilding 
 
I dont think till you have been on for a long time you relies how hard recovery is 
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Re: Can someone aware me on staying on for life/coming off 2015/02/05 08:22:31 (permalink)
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Your body doesn't care how muscle is created - it doesn't think "oh that was steroid assisted & now I have no steroids we'll sack that load off". Muscle is there for the keeping. What determines how much you keep are factors such as
 
Diet
Training
PCT implementation
How close you are to 'non-steroid genetic limit'
 
btw - Being 'on' permanantly is not at all a good idea

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Re: Can someone aware me on staying on for life/coming off 2015/02/05 08:59:37 (permalink)
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Your body doesn't care how muscle is created - it doesn't think "oh that was steroid assisted & now I have no steroids we'll sack that load off". Muscle is there for the keeping. What determines how much you keep are factors such as
 
Diet
Training
PCT implementation
How close you are to 'non-steroid genetic limit'
 
btw - Being 'on' permanantly is not at all a good idea




Solid advice as always PB!
 
 

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Re: Can someone aware me on staying on for life/coming off 2015/02/07 13:51:01 (permalink)
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Do any of you guys know anyone who's had long term issues recovering from cycling with proper pct etc?
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Re: Can someone aware me on staying on for life/coming off 2015/02/07 14:00:15 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby DaveW3000 2015/02/07 14:08:54
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Not personally,but I have read about guys struggling to recover after being on for years. 
I believe recovery becomes more difficult as one ages, which is one reason why older guys decide to stay on or blast and cruise. 

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Re: Can someone aware me on staying on for life/coming off 2015/02/08 15:15:12 (permalink)
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While reading PB post are talking about being in bodybuilding doses or trt? I could not image coming off my trt. I would rather eat a shotgun. Major depression when my levels are through the floor.
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Re: Can someone aware me on staying on for life/coming off 2015/02/17 04:33:30 (permalink)
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Have had a few issues coming off  ,  1 yr after being off still not back to where i was
 
I was on B+C for 5 yrs with heavy pct 
 
Moode low , depression and general feeling off cant be assed 
 
I had blood tests when i was 16 and it flagged up low test levels but back then it was shrugged off . so now i know i will always need TRT 
 
Also the Wife said Go back on and dont come off again ,  as i was a grumpy moody person when off cycle 
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Re: Can someone aware me on staying on for life/coming off 2015/02/17 18:28:04 (permalink)
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tried every cycle going usually 8 -12 weeks on 3 months on but last few years done some long cruises long dose and a few cycle and stopped using pct and never felt better when i done pct i losed all the gains but tend to keep it these days i dont understand either and thats over 20 years  of use
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Re: Can someone aware me on staying on for life/coming off 2015/02/18 17:58:10 (permalink)
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I love the advise of Partyboys "non-steroidal genetic limit" I think it's a very under looked point that is crucial
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