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2014/12/09 13:43:26 (permalink)

Carb choices - how important are they?

So for the past 11 months I've been having chicken and basmati rice for lunch at work.  Something about that clean meal makes me feel like I'm "doing it right"!
 
I'm thinking of training at lunchtime which means I'll just eat back at my desk.  I don't want to take the mick and start messing with the microwave, plates, knives and forks when I should be working.  So would be swapping my rice for wholegrain pittas or wraps so I can just eat as I work without the mess.
 
In the grand scheme of things, does this make much difference?  Just feels a bit wrong swapping the "clean" rice for a form of bread.
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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2014/12/09 16:01:17 (permalink)
I'm sure wholemeal pitta and basmati are around the same on the glycemic index, so if the numbers match then there's no difference.

If you were swapping it for white pitta then I could sort of understand your concern.

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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2014/12/09 16:05:37 (permalink)
I log all calories in MyFitnessPal so I would make sure the numbers match and adjust if not.  Eg, if 2 x wholegrain pittas/wraps = more cals/carbs than the rice, I'd just eat less later on.
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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2014/12/09 16:21:23 (permalink)
You'll be fine mate.
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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2014/12/09 16:39:05 (permalink)
Why wouldn't you swap it for white pitta PWO? *just puttin' it out there* 
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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2014/12/11 15:58:27 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Sprite Goblin 2014/12/21 21:45:05
Yes, agree.  Rice is no more 'clean' other non-refined carb sources.  Pittas are fine, including white pitta.  Eating the same thing over and over and over and over again not only leads to boredom and a less sustainable diet but also lacks nutritional variety.
Even the odd bad carb when you need carbs is totally fine IMO, even when strict dieting I'll occasionally have fruit cake, malt loaf, christmas cake, toasted muffins, cereals, sometimes all of them in one go if my training needs it.

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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2014/12/11 20:13:52 (permalink)
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Pittas are fine, including white pitta




Is white pitta/bread/wraps better than wholemeal? Also, what are your thoughts on Rye bread? - It's an acquired taste, but contains carbs and is always on the 'Wholefoods' section of the local supermarket
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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2014/12/11 20:20:15 (permalink)
Will make no odds... I sure as hell wouldn't worry about GI or any other such nonsense

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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2014/12/12 11:52:19 (permalink)
Small variances in GI make no odds, just profound (I wouldn't eat refined sugar all day whilst trying to carb load).
 
Post workout any non-refined carbs are fine, and a little refined carbs in the mix are also fine IMO.

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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2014/12/12 13:45:50 (permalink)
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Eating the same thing over and over and over and over again not only leads to boredom and a less sustainable diet but also lacks nutritional variety.

 
To be fair, by adding in sauces, hummus, etc, I've kept it quite interesting.  It's just been easy and cheap and have stuck to it for almost a year now.  
 
But I agree with all the comments, there should be no real different if I switch to some form of bread.
 
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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2014/12/21 21:54:39 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Randall 2014/12/21 22:43:26
As above, carb sources as such aren't too important when you are comparing rice / potatoes / pittas / buckwheat etc... your not swapping your rice for a bag of haribo so dont sweat it.
 
Food variation though.... massively important IMO, not just for the sake of becoming bored (which you have avoided by using sauces etc) but because each and every food we consume contains an abundance of different compounds, many of which are probably still undiscovered, and each will come with their own health benefits and risks. In varying our food choices, we make sure we never over or under eat any of these compounds. 
 
So, a person who eats the same "healthiest accepted diet known to man" day in day out, would likely benefit from a good old fry up every once in a while
 

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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2015/01/03 21:51:32 (permalink)
Dont see any problems with it although after a work out I would have no problems consuming white pitta bread.
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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2015/01/04 04:37:47 (permalink)
I'm pretty confused with the whole low Glycemic index vs low glycemic load, I've seen the data tables (they're always fking different values from site to site, sometimes drastically different).  Some say high GI = bad, some say high glycemic load = bad.
I cut white rice/bread/pasta and potatoes out of my diet for months because it was "to do" thing for cutting.  In favour of oats sweet potatoes and other whole grains, but really white rice and sweet potatoes aren't very different in terms of GI.  And I'd much prefer to be eating rice every day.  
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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2015/01/04 10:03:53 (permalink)
White basmati is fine, but I prefer brown, sure if you eat white potatoes for example with veg protein and fat it slowers the absorption, but white bread and other similar high gi carbs certainly spike insulin harder than brown bread, basmati rice etc.

I prefer grains, oats, rice etc for my carbs.

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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2015/01/09 14:13:46 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby The_Lone_Wolf 2015/01/09 14:17:50
Essentially;
GI is the rate at which blood sugar elevates
GL is the total amount of blood sugar recorded
 
None are essentially 'bad' as such, they just may be counter to your goals.  If your cutting you would aim more for low GI / low GL, carb loading low GI / high GL, inter endurance training (or maybe PWO shake if thats your route) high GI / high GL.

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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2015/01/09 16:51:58 (permalink)
Am I correct in believing that it's the amount of sugar in breads that is the issue? I'm asking as I'm eating my carbs like sweet potato and quinoa and dying for a good old sandwich!
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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2015/01/09 17:17:32 (permalink)
There's not much sugar in bread last time I checked.

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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2015/01/10 08:54:49 (permalink)
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So for the past 11 months I've been having chicken and basmati rice for lunch at work.  Something about that clean meal makes me feel like I'm "doing it right"!
 
I'm thinking of training at lunchtime which means I'll just eat back at my desk.  I don't want to take the mick and start messing with the microwave, plates, knives and forks when I should be working.  So would be swapping my rice for wholegrain pittas or wraps so I can just eat as I work without the mess.
 
In the grand scheme of things, does this make much difference?  Just feels a bit wrong swapping the "clean" rice for a form of bread.


yes, it will make a difference, how much though, who knows, regardless of calorie content and glycemic index, there are still differences, with the bread being a refined carb, not a sugar mind, but still, the rice has to be broken down more before digestion etc. And most still don't digest flour too well.
 
long run, no, probably not so you would notice, but if you are prepping for a comp or something, i would stick with rice.
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Re: Carb choices - how important are they? 2015/01/10 08:59:03 (permalink)
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Am I correct in believing that it's the amount of sugar in breads that is the issue? I'm asking as I'm eating my carbs like sweet potato and quinoa and dying for a good old sandwich!

not the sugar content, just that white flour is essentially devoid of any nutrients, and has the same GI as sugar, roughly. Flour is a weird thing, and divides opinion. I feel every diet is better without it, but other can't live without it.
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