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2004/01/19 17:18:08 (permalink)
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Chest Mass


What the best excercise for building mass on the chest?
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    Robert
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/19 17:27:27 (permalink)
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    dips and flys.
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/19 20:26:43 (permalink)
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    .. or possibly benching.

    You have to find what works best for you.
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/20 00:32:28 (permalink)
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    The hell... What works for you?

    Thats junk when it comes to exercises... Dips and bench press are by far the best mass builders for chest.
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/20 02:30:41 (permalink)
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    manners cost nothing genon, even if i do agree with you.
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/20 03:42:59 (permalink)
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    Heh... I suppose.

    J5: The reason your saying push-ups are better is because your moving your body through space I assume? If that's the case I agree, but everytime I do push-ups with actual heavy weight my back bends in due to the weight and my lats get a much better workout then my chest. Dumbbell press = Bench press, by that I mean that when I said bench press I meant flat bb, incline bb, flat db etc.

    I don't see why dips didn't make your cut though... Quite shocking =\
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/20 16:45:56 (permalink)
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    Understandable... They are more compound then bench press and generally work the same muscles. Why is it then that nobody really does em?
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/20 16:49:36 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Genon

    Understandable... They are more compound then bench press and generally work the same muscles. Why is it then that nobody really does em?
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    Tears the f*** out yer rucksack :-)

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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/20 17:09:11 (permalink)
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    I do weighted push ups!

    there always first on push day!

    ive tried them in between chairs to get a greater ROM but im not sure if theres any point, gives one hell of a stretch though.
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/20 17:23:59 (permalink)
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    Thnaks for the advice guys. On chest/tri days I do Flat Barbell Bench Press, Inclined Dumbbell Bench Press, Flat Dumbbell Flyes, Close Grip Bench Press and Skullcrushers. All 3 sets of 8 reps. I was thinking of doing 4 dets of 8 of flat Barbell Bench Press and keeping the rest the same, is that a good idea?

    Thanks!
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/20 18:36:45 (permalink)
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    Dips may not be the best CHEST builder there is, but as a compound movement which hits the chest, delts and tris it has no equal.

    TUFF
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/20 19:26:38 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Genon

    The hell... What works for you?

    Thats junk when it comes to exercises... Dips and bench press are by far the best mass builders for chest.



    Why junk?
    If there were only one way to build mass that worked for everyone I suspect we would know about it.
    I agree that bench or dips are probably going to be the best mass builders for most, but not for everyone.
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/20 23:47:30 (permalink)
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    Roger... Didn't mean to insult ya there if I did heh.

    I don't like it when people say what works for you might not work for someone else... Because there are some things that just work. Bench press just works as do dips... Everybodys body is GENERALLY the same, therefore the exercise will influence their muscles in GENERALLY the same way.

    What I really hate is when I begginer gets it in his head that what he is doing works best for him... And that's why I hate that whole what works for you might not work for me stuff.

    If you ask what are the best chest exercises for a person... The answer is GENERALLY the same. Dips and Bench are definatly superior exercises for the chest and really nothing else can compete with them (except weighted pushups J5 ;))
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/21 11:40:31 (permalink)
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    No offence taken :-)
    I agree with you, broadly speaking, and I think that benching or dipping are probably going to be the best choices for building mass.
    However, it wouldn't be right for a newbie to stick with one of those even if he suffered from elbow tendonitis for example. In that case he would need to find something else.
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/21 11:53:53 (permalink)
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    Genon..

    yes we are all GENERALY the same.. but which exersizes we do are determined by what best suits the individual..

    Take a 6ft guy who weighs 10st... bench or dips?... easy answer really.. telling him to do dips would be pointless as almost certainly he hasn't got the strength to do them.

    Which exersize is best for shoulder mass?.. Militarly press or handstand press ? How many people do you know that can do handstand press for reps (or even one for that matter!). So it would be pretty pointless exersize for trying to build mass in your shoulders when you cant even perform the exersize because you haven't got the required strength yet..

    This is PARTICULARLY true for beginners for whom a whole host of exersizes are untennable.. because they just don't have the strength to perform them even for a single rep.

    GTM
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/21 12:20:51 (permalink)
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    So what about inclined and declined chest presses, do they work the upper and lower chest? is that right?
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/21 12:41:55 (permalink)
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    ivan,
    no they don't. you **cannot** use/work/grow one part of muscle. your body does not work like a machine and its constituant parts, it works as a whole, or not at all. muscles are used/worked/grown as a whole and not as upper/midle/lower etc.
    rob
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    RE: Chest Mass 2004/01/21 13:50:21 (permalink)
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    Ok cheers mate!
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