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2019/03/27 15:22:37 (permalink)
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Cholesterol

Hi all,
Been to a health check at the docs with a health practitioner this morning and left a bit annoyed/confused.
My cholesterol was 6.6 which is apparently too high. That doesn't bother me particularly but my HDL was 0.8 which she said wasn't good.
I eat clean most of the week, 2 boiled eggs for breakfast with spinach, some fruit, chicken, rice and brocolli for lunch and then your average family dinner of an evening. This is Mon through to Friday nearly every week with the odd exception.
I drink once a week on a Saturday and have a more relaxed approach to my diet on a weekend generally but i don't go mad eating **** food.
I am cutting at the moment so would like any advice on what i can change around with breakfast and lunch to sort out the high cholesterol and get the balance of HDL better. (apparently it should be half the total ish?)
Thanks
Tim
 
 
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Re: Cholesterol 2019/03/28 07:54:39 (permalink)
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How long have you been "eating clean" and do you have access body fat?  What do you mean by "on a Saturday and have a more relaxed approach to my diet"?  

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Re: Cholesterol 2019/03/28 19:51:01 (permalink)
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Eating clean for 4 weeks or so now. At the weekend I'll have a bacon sandwich on Saturday or Sunday and toast dinner etc. And a few pints on Saturday. It's the only day of the week I drink. I may 'treat' myself to a bag of crisps and bar of chocolate on Sunday too.
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Re: Cholesterol 2019/04/01 21:03:54 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Ultimate warrior 2019/05/16 21:07:43
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Hi mate, a bit late but thought I'd chime in.
 
First thing to note about cholesterol is that your diet has little to do with it. Something like 15% of the cholesterol in your body is obtained through food. Your body produces most of it.
 
HDL is typically higher in athletes. This suggests exercise ie. cardio could be a big factor in this. Do you do much in the way of aerobic exercise? Also be sure to get a healthy dose of fish in every week, or look at fish oil supplements. If you are more into supplements then bergamot (sp?) has some studies that suggest it is good for increasing HDL and lowering LDL.
 
I've done a fair bit of reading into chol and I'm not convinced it is the evil that it's made out to be. If you're interested in seeing what my thoughts are in detail have a look at this thread.
 
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Re: Cholesterol 2019/04/01 22:18:19 (permalink)
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Good stuff Brett, I have been interested in cholesterol ever since I was checked and my ratio basically indicated that I should be dead, my "good" cholesterol was virtually zero 0.02  but the issues I was trying to get sorted were not related to this IMO. I was suffering from fatigue, lack of sleep and depression. It turned I was suffering from sleep Apnea.
My cholesterol recovered without me changing my diet at all which has always been decent.  
Recently I heard a nutrition expert, I forget which one but I think it was Rhonda Patrick saying that the role of cholesterol is badly understood and most of conventional wisdom is incorrect, its present when damage is caused but is not necessarily the offender, they likened it to an innocent by stander at the scene of a crime. 
 
As for statins, it seems they are likely to be much more of a problem than the cholesterol they are meant to control.

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Re: Cholesterol 2019/04/01 23:01:36 (permalink)
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Its worth looking into. I’ve read supposed evidence that its critical in preventing Alzheimers and dementia.
The main thing I’ve read is cholesterol is harmless but when combined with inflammation it starts to clog.
I’m following a paleo/carnivore type lifestyle now and every podcast I listen to they all have increased LDL but also HDL, which balances it. As for statins I wouldn’t touch them under any circumstance. A shed load of sides.

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Re: Cholesterol 2019/04/02 08:03:06 (permalink)
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There are foods that apparently do lower bad cholesterol, just google them.  Years ago I had high blood pressure and high bad cholesterol.  What did it for me was aerobic exercise, I went from nothing to 3-4 45 min sessions a week, it went down.  One of my favourite foods was eggs, I was eating 4-5 a day, but dietary cholesterol is not the same as blood cholesterol.

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Re: Cholesterol 2019/04/02 20:50:03 (permalink)
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I don`t believe eggs will have any effect on endogenous cholesterol at all. 
Also the benefits they provide nutritionally make them too precious to leave out. 

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Re: Cholesterol 2019/04/08 17:19:51 (permalink)
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From memory saturated fats ie. meat raise both types of cholesterol, but only by a small amount. Certainly supports what Bookerman is saying.
 
Also Dumbat very interesting what you said about your issues. I wonder if stress has an influence on cholesterol? It would also help to explain why athletes typically have higher HDL and lower LDL as exercise is great for reducing stress and promoting healthy endocrine system.
 
I agree there is some foods that seem to assist in lowering LDL cholesterol, or rather they play no part in increasing it, but again as a large portion is produced by the body the effect will be minimal.

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Re: Cholesterol 2019/04/08 20:57:19 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Ultimate warrior 2019/05/16 21:09:24
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There is evidence that suggests that stress can increase LDL , along with inflammation, my inflammation markers were high as well.  What was worrying is that my G.P. seemed puzzled by this.
 
I follow a lot of nutrition experts, and the information that they publish is years ahead of a lot of doctors knowledge.
This isn`t really their fault as they simply are not given time to keep up with the latest research.
Most of conventional medical knowledge is about 5 years behind the curve. 
 
Rhonda Patrick is certainly worth listening to, She has an excellent You tube channel where she discusses topics with other world experts.
 

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Re: Cholesterol 2019/04/09 16:02:38 (permalink)
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Very true mate. GPs in fact have very little training on nutrition and the extent of most knowledge doesn't go much further beyond that of the media spoon-fed general public.
 
Cholesterol is bad, fat is evil, don't eat fast food etc. etc.
 
I will note that Rhonda Patrick and have a look. Cheers bud!

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