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travis5000_99
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2005/08/02 17:41:10 (permalink)
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Clen with Androsten/Creatine

I am currently on a 60-80 a day clen cycle(first week) with another week to go. Before I started this I was on a Androstene and Creatine routine that I have recently stopped.

my question is , Is Clen Safe to use with these other supplements? Andro and Creatine?
Please forgive any ignorance I display this is the first time I have used any prescription / non over the counter drugs before.



Also this is my first post, I have been looking through the forum for a week or so, great info!! very helpful! NO forums in the states are as helpful.
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    Fred M
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    RE: Clen with Androsten/Creatine 2005/08/02 17:47:06 (permalink)
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    There are no interactions between the substances if that is what you were asking. If you are dieting creatine might be useful to keeping you muscle mass. I personally don;t use Androstene but if think it will help keep your gains then I won;t argue.

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    travis5000_99
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    RE: Clen with Androsten/Creatine 2005/08/02 18:12:43 (permalink)
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    thanks for the help.

    I am not so much worried about my mass right now, I really want to just loose as much body fat as physically possible right now. I am now 230 6'1. I have only mid section fat that I have been trying to get rid off for a while now with no luck.

    I have been thinking of introducing Winstrol into my system in order to use the added muscle to aid in the fat burning. Is this a bad assumption?
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    RE: Clen with Androsten/Creatine 2005/08/02 21:16:18 (permalink)
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    Not a good idea tbh. Winny won't create a great deal of increased muscle gain. Indeed, you'll be lucky to get any muscle gain at all whilst dieting (calorie restrictive phase).

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    travis5000_99
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    RE: Clen with Androsten/Creatine 2005/08/03 16:24:01 (permalink)
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    Thanks partyboy.

    i have done alot of research so i am aware that winny will not give great gains in mass as other popular stacks.

    ?? i was under the impression that it would help harden me up and tone. my goal realy is not to obtain alot of mass, just tone and harden.. of course this is all from what i have read, i have no expreince. so i value this forum's input..

    unless anyone can suggest any other stack/cycle ect that would be better suited for toneing up.

    thanks
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    RE: Clen with Androsten/Creatine 2005/08/03 18:40:32 (permalink)
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    'Tone' is a word that is generally hated in bbing circles. You cannot 'tone' a muscle; rather it just either gets bigger or smaller. However, you can become more 'toned' in that your muscles have greater definition and are more visible, though this is purely down to reducing bodyfat levels. And unfortunately, steroids don't particularly reduce bodyfat levels - there is no easy way - it's all down to your own efforts through diet manipulation, training & cardio.

    Winny does tend to give a dry/hardened look to the physique (though not through it reducing %BF).
    However, this effect goes largely unnoticed at higher %BF levels.
    post edited by PartyBoy - 2005/08/03 18:41:40

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    RE: Clen with Androsten/Creatine 2005/08/03 20:26:37 (permalink)
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    thanks a bunch.. i am going to hold off on the winny for now then.. i plan on taking down my bf% with the ECA stack..

    Last ??
    i do like the clen i have been using, is it a bad idea to add clen to my eca?
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    RE: Clen with Androsten/Creatine 2005/08/03 21:53:49 (permalink)
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    Yes, as detailed in the clen thread at the top of this forum.

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