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2008/05/15 13:09:07 (permalink)

Cloudy Tren E?

Just got some Tren E, and its the usual apple juice/piss colour, but its quite cloudy instead of being clear?

Anyone seen this before? I trust my source 100% just wondered of it may have crashed or is this normal with Tren?
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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 13:27:43 (permalink)
    Does the cloud kind of 'hang' in the vial?

    I had that with a product that i can't even remember, and binned it got a replacement. Without slating ANY product, at the time i think i posted about it and was given the impression that it could have been contaminated with bacteria

    Hope this helps, for me i would not jab it
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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 13:54:31 (permalink)
    if its crashed heat it up and it should go away.otherwise it may be fake or a dodgy batch

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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 14:58:51 (permalink)
    my tren is not applejuice piss color ?????? it is rather brown redish !!! ?
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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 15:10:24 (permalink)
    Ive just had this with my masteron, it was cloudy, then when I heated it it went away but there were little tiny bits in it, I asked the most knowlagble BB in out gym (hes a pro BB'er) and he said it was fine, he told me what coursed it at the time but I cant remember.

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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 15:19:05 (permalink)
    Depends mate, if the "cloud" settles when you leave it and seems to separate out, then when you swirl it goes back "into" solution like, then I wouldn't touch it as that is what bacteria does. Bacteria however does not just sit in solution but grows in clumps and settles down to the bottom of a tube when left for a while, by gravity. This is how we tell if the media we use to grow bacteria in (LB) is contaminated or not, swirl it, and the bacteria comes up from the bottom!

    I've seen gear that is cloudy mostly with anything with an enanthate ester from China in the last few months - test e and tren e both seem to be being produced in a way that even after filter sterilisation more than once it looks a bit cloudy. I know this because a friend of mine was concerned about a vial he had like this, so sent it to me and I checked for sterility in the lab and it grew nothing on plates and liquid cultures so it was actually sterile.

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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 15:23:02 (permalink)
    MCL, mine didnt go back into the solution but still had tiny bits in it, is this normal?
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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 15:30:18 (permalink)
    got some tren depot (enth) from wildcats, that looks ok at first but when holded up to the light, its also cloudy. not tried it yet though. my source is top notch so i will have no problem giving it ago.
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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 16:14:01 (permalink)
    could be the cold, i mean look at a olive oil in a cold place, it gets weird cloudy too ?? or is it just another stupid statement ???

    btw, my tren e, the one hurting from axio, is real, last night i sweated like a pig and couldnt really sleep, good stuff !!!
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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 16:23:25 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: samcim

    MCL, mine didnt go back into the solution but still had tiny bits in it, is this normal?


    What did the bits look like? If it was bacteria, it would disperse from being clumps to making the solution cloudy again. However you shouldn't have particles in a filtered solution unless it is a) bits from the rubber stopper due to putting needle in same hole repeatedly (would look dark grey though), b) bacterial growth, which would swirl to make the solution cloudy, or c) crystals from the product crashing a bit. There is another option, option d) which is that parts of the sterile filter used/membrane got into the filtered solution - certain solvents and sometimes EO can cause particle of the filter membrane to come off, and although it should still be sterile it can form these.

    The problem is, it is risky injecting somethign with clumps in it/particles! If you have already used it however and it was like this before you used it yet gave you no problems then the chances are its not a big issue and won't be a problem and is sterile, however if you haven't used it yet, the question is do you want to take that risk?

    mcl
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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 16:25:12 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: bigguns99

    got some tren depot (enth) from wildcats, that looks ok at first but when holded up to the light, its also cloudy. not tried it yet though. my source is top notch so i will have no problem giving it ago.


    Sometimes EO makes things a bit cloudy. They might use EO in it. As long as it is consistently or uniformly cloudy (as opposed to clear to see through), and doesn't separate out form the solution when left still for a while, it should be OK. EO seems to sometimes make things to have a slight cloudy appearance, occasionaly.

    mcl
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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 16:33:18 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: mad_cereal_lover


    ORIGINAL: bigguns99

    got some tren depot (enth) from wildcats, that looks ok at first but when holded up to the light, its also cloudy. not tried it yet though. my source is top notch so i will have no problem giving it ago.


    Sometimes EO makes things a bit cloudy. They might use EO in it. As long as it is consistently or uniformly cloudy (as opposed to clear to see through), and doesn't separate out form the solution when left still for a while, it should be OK. EO seems to sometimes make things to have a slight cloudy appearance, occasionaly.

    mcl



    whats EO mate?
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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 16:51:46 (permalink)
    Yes I have used it MCL, the bits didnt go back to a solution when shaken, they just stayed the same.
    post edited by samcim - 2008/05/15 16:52:07
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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 16:54:13 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: mad_cereal_lover


    ORIGINAL: samcim

    MCL, mine didnt go back into the solution but still had tiny bits in it, is this normal?


    What did the bits look like? If it was bacteria, it would disperse from being clumps to making the solution cloudy again. However you shouldn't have particles in a filtered solution unless it is a) bits from the rubber stopper due to putting needle in same hole repeatedly (would look dark grey though), b) bacterial growth, which would swirl to make the solution cloudy, or c) crystals from the product crashing a bit. There is another option, option d) which is that parts of the sterile filter used/membrane got into the filtered solution - certain solvents and sometimes EO can cause particle of the filter membrane to come off, and although it should still be sterile it can form these.

    The problem is, it is risky injecting somethign with clumps in it/particles! If you have already used it however and it was like this before you used it yet gave you no problems then the chances are its not a big issue and won't be a problem and is sterile, however if you haven't used it yet, the question is do you want to take that risk?

    mcl

    This is what the guy from my gym said it was.
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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 16:58:56 (permalink)
    I have seen this also MCL even after autoclaving so you would assume that if it was bacteria it would have been killed off right?
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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 17:42:20 (permalink)
    slight cloudiness seems quite common with tren, have seen this with many ug labs trens that i have used before.

    sure someone told me something along the lines of a slight cloud to tren is a way of telling its good stuff.
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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 17:43:43 (permalink)
    if its a case of it crashing it will normally not loo cloudy but instead you will be able to see small crystlisation
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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 18:20:07 (permalink)
    woudlnt be injecting anything cloudy!!!

    wot brand is it

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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 18:22:00 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: mad_cereal_lover


    ORIGINAL: bigguns99

    got some tren depot (enth) from wildcats, that looks ok at first but when holded up to the light, its also cloudy. not tried it yet though. my source is top notch so i will have no problem giving it ago.


    Sometimes EO makes things a bit cloudy. They might use EO in it. As long as it is consistently or uniformly cloudy (as opposed to clear to see through), and doesn't separate out form the solution when left still for a while, it should be OK. EO seems to sometimes make things to have a slight cloudy appearance, occasionaly.

    mcl


    Nothing to worry about EO is used in WC products.

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    RE: Cloudy Tren E? 2008/05/15 18:26:07 (permalink)


    thats cloudyness caused by bacteria

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