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2006/07/10 13:00:27 (permalink)

Coconut Oil

Just woundered if any body uses Coconut oil.

Has gained much press recently but much of the info i have read on it is via websites that sell it.

Any info i would certainly be interested to read.

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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/10 15:16:47 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: The Graduate

    Just woundered if any body uses Coconut oil.

    Has gained much press recently but much of the info i have read on it is via websites that sell it.

    Any info i would certainly be interested to read.


    I love cooking with coconut milk, which im sure the oil will be derived from. (made from the flesh of the coconut). I know that coconut milk is a high source of cholesterol, so im guessing the chances are that the oil is too. but get that confirmed.

    I cook prawns thai style in coconut milk, which BOTH are high in cholesterol!

    Oh well.

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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/10 15:53:09 (permalink)
    Coconut oil is very high in saturated fat when compared to other oils (olive, etc), however its in the form of MCTs and i believe not all saturated fats are bad.

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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/10 16:14:04 (permalink)
    I wouldnt worry about the saturated fats in Coconut oil, they should be fine. Im just thinking is it cost effective though. If I could find myself a bulk tub of the oil at a good price, Id probably throw my olive oil out the window.
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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/10 16:33:26 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: darkservant

    I wouldnt worry about the saturated fats in Coconut oil, they should be fine. Im just thinking is it cost effective though. If I could find myself a bulk tub of the oil at a good price, Id probably throw my olive oil out the window.


    Are you saying coconut oil is better than olive oil?

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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/10 18:22:40 (permalink)
    If I remember rightly the saturated fats stand better in heat than olive oil. Maybe Tony or Nige will confirm that one.

    Also Mag how did you change your name?
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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/10 18:29:57 (permalink)
    I cook prawns thai style in coconut milk, which BOTH are high in cholesterol!


    dietry cholesterol and blood cholesterol are not one and the same.

    MCT oils found in coconut oil are (very marginally, like to a 0.) less calorific g for g than other fats, apparently. But also, treated more like carbs and are burnt as a prefential energy source.

    IIRC you cannot just get coconut oil off he shelf and assume you have the best stuff (tho I could be wrong), I seem to recall some specifics involved when looking for the right coconut oil..... try a search and see what comes up
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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/10 21:48:32 (permalink)
    What's the deperation with coconut oil anyway guys? have i missed something? - is it way more beneficial than other oils?

    darkservant - changed my name through talking to Jason the administrator. He's been a true gent.

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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/10 22:27:35 (permalink)
    Do a search as there's been threads about it before and I'm sure I said something useful about the stuff I use.
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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/11 02:47:46 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Magnitude
    I know that coconut milk is a high source of cholesterol
    You know? Coconuts contain no cholesterol.
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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/11 13:02:51 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: dirtyvest
    IIRC you cannot just get coconut oil off he shelf and assume you have the best stuff (tho I could be wrong), I seem to recall some specifics involved when looking for the right coconut oil..... try a search and see what comes up


    I know it needs to be solid at room temp. It should also be made from a certain part but i cant remember, will have a look

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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/11 14:11:40 (permalink)

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    ORIGINAL: Magnitude
    I know that coconut milk is a high source of cholesterol
    You know? Coconuts contain no cholesterol.


    See here:

    "Coconut oil is rich in saturated fat, which is why it is bracketed with animal fat by many people. It should be noted that coconut oil has no cholesterol, as the latter is a component of animal fat only. However, intake of saturated fat may result in the elevation of the blood cholesterol levels. But all oils are not the same. Coconut oil is a good food, as most of its saturated fatty acids are what we call medium-chain fatty acids (MCFAs). They account for nearly 64% of the fatty acids in coconut oil. It is only coconut oil and palm kernel oil, among all of the edible oils, that contain these good MCFAs.
    http://www.coconutoil-online.com/cholesterol%20and%20cno.html

    Seems you're right nigeepoo. Sorry for misinforming people. It was on a documentary recently, that coconut milk increased cholesterol levels, maybe they mean blood choloesterol, indirectly, rather than the coconut milk itself having cholesterol in it.

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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/11 14:26:35 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Magnitude
    I cook prawns thai style in coconut milk, which BOTH are high in cholesterol!
    Prawns aren't that high in cholesterol (see http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-B00001-01c215I.html and set serving size to 100g). Half a pound (227g) of prawns/shrimps a day would give you 345mg of dietary cholesterol a day. According to the Americans, that's heart-attack country.

    However, one large whole egg contains 211mg of dietary cholesterol (see http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-B00001-01c201n.html and set serving size to 1 large 50g) and eating two whole eggs per day (422mg chol/day) makes no significant difference to serum cholesterol or triglycerides in 116 subjects (see http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/32/5/1051.pdf ) so please give it a rest with the cholesterol obsession.
    post edited by Nigeepoo - 2006/07/11 14:27:25
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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/11 14:35:15 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Magnitude
    Seems you're right nigeepoo. Sorry for misinforming people. It was on a documentary recently, that coconut milk increased cholesterol levels, maybe they mean blood choloesterol, indirectly, rather than the coconut milk itself having cholesterol in it.
    I don't like having a go at people (I'm normally a pu$$ycat) but even coconut oil with its 92% sat fat content doesn't have that much effect on serum cholesterol. See http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/34/8/1552.pdf Read the last paragraph. When Tokelauans migrated to New Zealand, their sat fat intake dropped from ~51% to ~41% of total cals, but their lipid profile got worse because of all the refined carbs/sugars they were eating in NZ.

    Note that 35 to 40mg/dL in the US is equivalent to ~1mmol/L in the UK.
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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/11 14:38:27 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: darkservant
    If I remember rightly the saturated fats stand better in heat than olive oil. Maybe Tony or Nige will confirm that one.
    That's correct. Sat fats have no unsaturated bonds to easily oxidise. Lauric acid (C12:0) of which coconut oil is ~49% is also very good for you.
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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/17 14:18:42 (permalink)
    Coconut oil = best oil to cook with IMO. Won't damage, tastes great, and gets burned extremely eficiently in the body.
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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/17 19:26:31 (permalink)
    lauric acid does increase serum cholesterol compared to carbohydrates. dont have any citations off hand, sorry.

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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/17 21:28:18 (permalink)
    I could be asking for it here but does coconut oil actually taste of coconut?
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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/17 21:35:07 (permalink)
    Good quality stuff does, yes. You won't notice the taste using it for cooking though - I cooked a steak in it earlier.
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    RE: Coconut Oil 2006/07/17 23:35:45 (permalink)
    So are we saying coconut over olive oil if frying?

    Can coconut oil be bought from a local supermarket?
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