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Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider?

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Never learned a martial art or skill and have seen this and thought its maybe its something I can do.  There is plenty of training available in Bristol, so finding a place to do it is simple enough.
 
What is there to consider?  I presume its based on weight in terms of of who you'd fight etc so I presume a BBer sized person will end up as a disadvantage with all the extra weight I currently carry (15 stone 7lbs).
 
Any hints or tips would be welcome.
 
Ps - I swear there used to be a Fighters Forum - has that gone?
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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 12:27:30 (permalink)
    YOu have to consider your going to take a kicking alot of the time.
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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 12:27:57 (permalink)

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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 12:30:19 (permalink)
    Losing a fair bit of mass with the rediculous cardio


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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 12:33:04 (permalink)
    What would you like to get out of it?

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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 12:38:20 (permalink)
    I think its going to be hard to maintain your mass.

    I've done some in the past and the sessions are very hard to recover from, much more so than just cardio alone.

    Having said that, there are some MMA fighters with huge amounts of muscle mass (Lashley, Lesnar, Carwin for example) so it can be done.

    I thought you wanted to compete in BB? I would advise against MMA if this is the case!

    Trojan free fighters in Bristol supposed to be excellent, mate goes there.
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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 12:43:20 (permalink)
    Time youll have to sinks bags of time in mate,bags
    also you may have to comprmise your BB at some point,diet or something due to the amount of commitment

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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 12:49:21 (permalink)
    its very hard!!  i love combat sports.  but ive had to knock it on the head due to getting injured all the time and not being able to train.

    what u mean by taking up mma?  you want to train or fight? 
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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 12:51:10 (permalink)
    Get used to been beaten by smaller guys for a while. When i first went i thought because i had quite good strength for my age and size that i would be better at wrestling and controlling on the ground but soon realised that that technique ruled over strength

    You would want to change your weight lifting routine from bodybuilding too by focusing on compound lifts and strength conditioning rather than  isolation exercise
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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 12:52:57 (permalink)
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    What would you like to get out of it?


    Initially to just enjoy the training and sparring, then if i'm any good to properly fight.
     
    Mama is less than keen on the idea.  Maybe would have to consider something lesser?  Shame.
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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 13:14:33 (permalink)
    Dude just dont tell her. Its like anything try it once see if you like it if you dont stop if you do carry on. Gurantee you will carry on ;)

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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 13:55:40 (permalink)
    Rasputin

    Dude just dont tell her.


    Good advice there

    There are some fighters at my Muay Thai gym who are pretty stacked so superb conditioning plus a big phsyique is possible.

    I personally find that carrying extra muscle mass causes me to gas out early and since increasing MA frequency, my lifts haven't improved that much.

    My suggestion is to try it, what have you got to lose?


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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 14:02:41 (permalink)
    from experiance...

    tendonitus and bad elbows from constant arm bars during rolling.

    broken ribs suck and do happen and nowt you can do about them when it happens!

    you will lose size, i went from 17.5 stone to 14 stone in 8 months through the tough training/conditioning drills.

    a laddish environment full of banter and to meet a good group of guys who will support you in your training. Loved my old 'school' as we kicked the snot out of each other on sparring and on the nights out we bought each other drinks and swapped stories on how so n so busted your nose that time

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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 14:06:03 (permalink)
    Oh and not forgetting.... 

    1st pic of what also happens during training on a rare occasion and the 2nd pic on a high frequency


     


     
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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 14:57:08 (permalink)
    What about boxing?  Not as intense as MMA and less chance of injury?

    Energy intensive but no reason you can't keep growing if you keep the calories going in and get the rest.

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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/20 22:12:43 (permalink)
    How's your cardio in general?

    That'll be key as to whether you can combine your weights and MMA training.

    Also be prepared to get very disheartened. You'll be regularly owned by guys who if you saw them in the street, you'd be certain that you could kick their arses.
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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/22 11:07:40 (permalink)
    This is just my experience, but hope it helps:
    I weigh in at 15.7 I don't compete in BB and seem to be on a more bulking oriented diet. I am too old and broken to compete in Muay Thai anymore, though I did briefly compete about 15 years ago.
     
    I train MMA 3 times a week and train weights 3 times a week and still maintain (actual gain mass). though I recently dropped a weights session as I was too tired by the end of the week and my back training was losing out.
     
    Things to consider:
    What do you want out of it?
    Personally I like the challenge it is hard work..very hard work, but very enjoyable, if you like to push yourself you will love it, if not, it might not be for you.
    What are your goals?
    If you want to compete in BB'ing, I would be a bit wary as there is always a risk of injury in MMA, bruises heal up quickly, but broken bones can seriously hamper your weights.
    If you want to fight/ compete, you may need to lower your weights schedule a bit and if that is you in the Avatar I guess that won't happen as your physique looks like it took a lot of work to get there.
    if you want it for "fun" sparring and learning something new, I would recommend it over pretty much anything bar Muay Thai (but I am bias here).
    Can you afford to get hurt?
    As above, not that it should happen, but it might happen, do your goals warrant the risk, again also depends how much you put in to be honest and if you fight/ spar with nutters on a certain level. Also some people oddly get a massive buzz out of a good beating, usually the adrenaline rush you get fighting/ grappling someone.
    Can you manage your diet well enough?
    Looking at your av, yes, but I have had to up my cals some 500 per day to allow for the extra training and I don't mind a bit of fat on my frame (it helps cushion the blows)
    Have you tried it?
    I know you say you have not done anything before, so why not give it a go anyway, as you might hate/ love it more than you think.
    Don't get confused!
    MMA is not UFC, you will get flipped choked and beaten by 10st "weedy looking" fellas on a regular basis (well if they are any good). Sometimes mass and strength can get a savage beating through skills in MMA, so be prepared to get a solid dent to your ego, though as long as you learn form your mistakes/ training you should be a solid fighter based on your weight/ current physique.
    Friction burns
    Sounds silly but if you train in BJJ without a GI (I do) you regularly get friction burns from the matting, it stops eventually, but can be a bit off putting when you start out.
     
    Above all mate, give it a go, you don't have much to lose until you have tried it! Good Luck and keep us posted.
     
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    post edited by TheDA - 2009/07/22 19:07:01
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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/22 14:39:04 (permalink)
    LOL@ matt-burn! its harsh .


    consider buying a cup, gettin your balls kick punched knee'd or crushed to hell rolling is not nice.

    just give it a go



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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/29 19:41:31 (permalink)
    Bump for Papa- did you give it a go mate?

    Found a club close to me which I'm tempted to try- £5 a pop though, bit dear.

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    Re:Considering taking up MMA - what do I need to consider? 2009/07/29 20:59:41 (permalink)
    £5 a pop is nothing for MMA training, some gyms charge £10 per session and £100 a month for training.

    Seriously, if I pay £5 for a gym session i'm pretty chuffed, let alone what is highly specialised and hopefully expert group instruction.

    Papa- My mate goes to Trojan, does MMA and muay thai there, he had some pics up on Facebook, and there was a few well built lads down there. I imagine they were 95kg-100kg, so you wouldn't be the only 'big lad'.

    The lessons also sounded pretty good to be honest.
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