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2006/07/11 16:46:06 (permalink)

Could some1 help m give pointers to make a diet for my mom

My mom weights like 220lbs and she like 5ft 2''. She in her mid 50's and really want to lose weight; I really want to help her but i need a lil help. She really cant lift weights nor does not care about gettin muscles at all. All she could basicly do is walk on the treadmil with a decent pace and lasting a good hr or so. Since the women body is different then a men body I think I just cant give her the cutting diet from Toxic. Could someone give me a calorie per lb a women should start with and how each meals\ should go by eatting a way the women should eat like toxic cutting diet is design like this

Meal 1: Protein + Carbs
Meal 2: Protein + Fat
Meal 3: Protein + Fat
Meal 4: Protein + Carbs (pre workout)
Meal 6: Protein
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Meal 7: Protein + Carbs
Meal 8: Protein + Fat

& a basic Protein %- Carb %- Fat %
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Sorry if this sounds like a lot; I had trouble looking for it online for quite a time, I just want to help my mom. Any help would be cool :)
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    RE: Could some1 help m give pointers to make a diet for my mom 2006/07/11 20:21:39 (permalink)
    I think we should work with actual food in this case. What does her current diet generally look like?

    She has to make gradual changes so that she will stick to the better eating habits and diet as a whole.

    Some sort of resistance training would be beneficial.. maybe she'd like something like pilates or yoga at some point?


     
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    RE: Could some1 help m give pointers to make a diet for my mom 2006/07/11 20:30:20 (permalink)
    She'd be better to make small changes at a time:

    1. stick to real foods, all fresh fruit/veg, nothing pre packaged, so sugar etc
    2. try and eat little and often

    take it from there - do it bit by bit ... in my opinion

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    RE: Could some1 help m give pointers to make a diet for my mom 2006/07/11 21:22:23 (permalink)
    Cool for the replies but is their any rule for my mom case like a 50% protein - 30% Carbs - 20 % Fat ? or eat certain carns at certain times?
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    RE: Could some1 help m give pointers to make a diet for my mom 2006/07/12 05:43:31 (permalink)
    No, it's best you work with real food rather than numbers my friend.

    Take a look at her current diet. See where there are holes, and fix them.

    Women can still eat like men.. the same way we can train like them. It's just that we usually have different goals, are smaller.. and some other slight differences..

    So have her log her diet.. an example of one. And apply the basic 'rules' to it to help make it better.

    If she's having very large meals only twice a day.. then that should be changed to smaller more frequent meals.

    If she lacks protein in all meals except one.. then the others should be adjust so that they do provide her with more protein. Same with fats. And carbs. If her sources of carbs.. or any macro for that matter.. are 'unclean' sources.. then switching them for other 'cleaner' sources would be ideal.
    Making sure she's getting in her fibrous vegetables and fruit is another point.
    Drinking plenty of water throughout the day is another.

    So she can start making changes for the better.. similar to what your goals in diet may be.. just that she may need to eat less in general. You basically have to tailor the diet to her and her needs.


     
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    RE: Could some1 help m give pointers to make a diet for my mom 2006/07/12 18:38:59 (permalink)
    Thanks once again for the replies mates :) .....as of now she just eat anything she desires but im hopin to get a decent diet...Im Doin a cutting diet of my own right now, Could I give this to her?

    5-10g glutamine

    15 Mins Later

    Cardio is in the morning following a protein shake right after

    30mins later

    Meal 1: Breakfast
    4 eggs whites
    1 cups Skim Milk w/
    1/2 cup Oats

    -2hr later-

    Meal 2: Snack
    1/2 cups 2% cottage cheese
    handful of Almonds

    -2hr later-

    Meal 3: Lunch
    4oz. chicken breast
    2 tablespoons flaxseed oil

    -2hr later-

    Meal 4: Snack (Preworkout meal)
    5oz. tuna
    1 slice wheat bread
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    -1hr later-

    WORKOUT


    Meal 5 post workout
    gatorade w/
    40g of whey protein


    -1hr later-

    Meal 6: Dinner.
    4oz. steak, Brown rice/w vegatables

    -2hr later- to 3hrs later

    Meal 7: Before bed.
    Cottage Cheese mix with whey protein and flaxseed oil

    2,200 Calories with 50% Protein- 25% Carbs- 25% Fats

    Yes I know results will vary, but in time it will change to fit her needs. So is this ok for her ?

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    RE: Could some1 help m give pointers to make a diet for my mom 2006/07/12 19:43:04 (permalink)
    not a chance mate, you think your mum is gonna switch to eat like that after 50 years+ of eating habits?

    my mums in the same boat, i bet you she simply eats too many calories overall mainly coming from processed carb snacks (in my mums case), my mum eats about a 65% carb, 20% fat, 15 % protein diet and not all of quality. thats what 56 years of scraping buy on little money to buy food for a whole family does, economy comes first everytime!

    i don't think worrying about macro combinations and %, eating 6 meals a day is ever gonna be a realistic plan. Id suggest small dietry changes like trying to sub one poor choice for a better choice, eating less calorie dense junk, cakes, sweets etc, finding more filling wholesome but tasty foods that your mum likes. Also getting her more active, a sport maybe, pleasure walking are good choices. I think its simply a case of eating less and more exercise.

    I word of warning, its damm frustrating trying to help someone diet who is set in there ways.
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    RE: Could some1 help m give pointers to make a diet for my mom 2006/07/12 21:18:16 (permalink)
    As above.. you can't dictate the diet to her. You have to work with how she's currently eating. Make gradual adjustments and explain to her why she has to make the adjustments. If not then she won't stick to it.

    Work your way up with where she is.. don't skip twenty steps.. she'll fall off too quickly.


     
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    RE: Could some1 help m give pointers to make a diet for my mom 2006/07/12 21:31:03 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: New Guy87

    Since the women body is different then a men body


    The same processes work in exactly the same ways when it comes to body composition changes; don't believe the hype - a good diet for men is a good diet for women is a good diet full stop.

    I agree with the others - attempting to give her a pre-rolled cutting diet intended for weight trainers is going to get nowhere. You have a lot of inertia to overcome and switching directly to something like Toxic's template simply won't happen, it's too much of a change.


    Find the bad habits, start with the worst.

    Crap in between meal snacks? Replace with fruit.
    Meals heavy on saturated fat? Try and swap to baked/grilled alternatives, or leaner cuts of meat.
    Get her to practise portion control.
    Avoid heavily salted or sugared foods.

    And most importantly get her to start exercising - it doesn't have to be much, at this stage you are only going to be looking to get a basic level of fitness as without any exercise she will be far out of condition and in no place to dive into 45minute cardio marathons. Start with 15 minutes of walking and add a minute a week. When that's up to half hour, start adding in the odd minute of jogging, until its 30 mins of jogging. Etc.
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    RE: Could some1 help m give pointers to make a diet for my mom 2006/07/13 03:19:36 (permalink)
    Thanks mates; I will get to it :)
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    RE: Could some1 help m give pointers to make a diet for my mom 2006/07/13 03:51:33 (permalink)
    agree with whats already been said, some very good replies.

    the best thing you can do right now is encourage positive changes, and get your mum to write a dietary log down every day and then post it on here and we can all help with making some healthy changes which will be sustainable which is a key with older women that are looking to lose weight.

    good on you for trying to help your mum out this way, very respectable.

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    RE: Could some1 help m give pointers to make a diet for my mom 2006/07/13 03:56:02 (permalink)
    Also, get the crap food out of the house. People tend to 'eat with their eyes' in general.

    You've got to see where her weaknesses are and then work on changing them in a way that doesn't make her feel deprived or unhappy..


     
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    RE: Could some1 help m give pointers to make a diet for my mom 2006/07/13 06:34:01 (permalink)
    Cheer for the replies :)
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