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Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare?

Been thinking about the missus moving to England to live with me when she didn't speak much English at all.

Thought of role-reversal and if I'd gone to live in her region - midway between Moscow and Siberia where English speakers are rare.

Not really dwelled on it before but realised stuff like getting a bus or ordering anything beyond pointing at a menu would be a right pain. And I'd be virtually unemployable until I learned Russian properly - I only know about 200 words.

If you had to move tomorrow for whatever reason, do you think you could get by in somewhere fairly isolated - I'm not talking about Marbella here?
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    JK2
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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 13:11:30 (permalink)
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    But it's different.

    We're British!

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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 13:13:58 (permalink)
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    I don't think there is a better place to come than the UK, even if you can't speak the language one bit.

    I expect I would make my way, wouldln't be tricky though.

    Where is she from in Russia? Sounds like the wilds!
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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 13:14:13 (permalink)
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    id struggle big time tbh

    Everyone has been in shape,but not everyone is IN shape,its about where your going not where you have been.
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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 13:17:36 (permalink)
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    You'd end up learning the language, it would be unavoidable. 

    Look at the footballers who used to go play in Itlay/Spain, they became fluent speakers, even the thick ones lol, although they probably spent half the week in lessons.

    On a recent holiday I had it confirmed just how much we assume that most europeans speak English.  Apart from Scandies/Belgium/some Germans, English is not as widely spoken as we would love to assume.  Even the very basics.
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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 13:17:44 (permalink)
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    I speak enough Thai that i can survive out in the sticks.Can pretty much get by regarding most things.Not fluent as such,but i know enough individual words to ask for what i need.
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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 13:19:37 (permalink)
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    Yup - I work in Bristol and manage to survive there..... j/k
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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 13:20:03 (permalink)
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    yes i would

    tbh the best way to learn a language is to go to that country, as you pick it up alot faster, you will be surprised how fast you can actually learn some of the basics

    my wife is french and she speaks english better than most english people , me myself spend around 3-5 weeks in france a year and i can understand conversations and such , where before i was lazy at school and took no interest in learning french

    so yeah i could
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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 13:20:45 (permalink)
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    Hapiface
    Where is she from in Russia? Sounds like the wilds!


    Near here mate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perm

    On the times I've been there, hotel staff don't speak much English, the odd taxi driver has a bit, shop staff don't generally, etc.

    Trained in a wicked ar5epit of a gym out there, though - in the middle of a forest. Absolutely stank and was freezing but all these big lads were proper game for their powerlifting. My 400-odd benches were nothing special at all.
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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 14:31:09 (permalink)
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    Done it many times.  You learn very quicky to communicate through amature damatics.  It also helps to be slightly drunk at all times as well...

    You'd end up learning the language, it would be unavoidable. 

    Look at the footballers who used to go play in Itlay/Spain, they became fluent speakers, even the thick ones lol, although they probably spent half the week in lessons.


    You don't magically learn languages just being somewhere, you have to work at it.  Spainish and Italian would be two of the easiest to pick up, you have no chance of learning Russian by osmosis.

    I've meet people who have been in english speaking countries for 20 years and not been able to have the most basic conversation with them in english.

    But it's different.

    We're British!


    No, you speak English.  As much as it pisses the French off, English is simply the international language that is the default choice for most people.
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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 14:32:12 (permalink)
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    It would be very hard but depending on the circumstances probably worth it - I think you'd have done it to be with your missus I reckon.

    Have you taken any Russian classes or read any language books mate?  Or the 200 words come from your wife's vocab teaching you?!

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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 14:33:38 (permalink)
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    I have a few Russian audio Cds, a translation book, and I took some lessons.
    The hardest part was learning to actually write the alphabet.
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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 14:37:14 (permalink)
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    I just meant it would be unavoidable if you had some personal drive and wanted to enjoy living there.  Yes, you'd still need to make an effot, a serious one for Russian.  I did meet a russian girl on holidays once, about 12 years ago, she had a goe an trying to teach me some basics, but I can only remember one word now.
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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 14:46:07 (permalink)
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    I thought you already had conversational Russian
    You should learn it mate, its not that difficult.
    What do you think is holding you back?

    Anyway, no matter the country or the language, once you made a few friends, you would be sorted, you would learn it no bother. Only hassle would be making those friends initially.

    Advantage of speaking English is that everyone in the world speaks it or wants to. So you'll always find someone willing to swap their language for yours, regardless of the country.

    I never lived in another country full time, but the hard part I found about being abroad years ago, was being in another country and not having another English speaker around, no access to internet, no English books or tv etc.
    After a week or so, I really started to miss the humour etc.

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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 14:50:56 (permalink)
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    Dan Nukem

    I thought you already had conversational Russian
    You should learn it mate, its not that difficult.
    What do you think is holding you back?


    I do, if it's about food, the weather, work, etc.
    I'd be stuffed in a work capacity though.
    "Mind your head, concrete pillar coming" or somesuch would catch me out.
    Will learn Russian to a good level in the future. Right now, I have other topics for study.
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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 15:02:07 (permalink)
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    Dan Nukem

    I thought you already had conversational Russian
    You should learn it mate, its not that difficult.
    What do you think is holding you back?


    I do, if it's about food, the weather, work, etc.
    I'd be stuffed in a work capacity though.
    "Mind your head, concrete pillar coming" or somesuch would catch me out.
    Will learn Russian to a good level in the future. Right now, I have other topics for study.


    yera feck it, you don't need it for a work capacity so why bother?
    Cross that bridge when you come to it.

    As long as you can speak with her friends and family and not be the third wheel, thats all you need.
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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 15:22:39 (permalink)
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    JohnKerr2

    But it's different.

    We're British!


    Yes.

    Everybody understands english if you speak s-l-o-w-l-y and LOUDLY enough...


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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 15:22:51 (permalink)
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    Yes, I don't like comunicating with others anyway, they irritate me.

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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 15:25:16 (permalink)
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    Chamber

    Yup - I work in Bristol and manage to survive there..... j/k


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    Re:Could you survive in a country where you didn't speak the language and English was rare 2009/07/30 15:31:18 (permalink)
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    I lived in Switzerland for several years.
    You learn the language as you go, but also many people speak English to varying degrees.

    You can always make do.

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