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2015/01/03 20:17:04 (permalink)
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Critique my possible next cycle please

This is going to be run alongside a calorie deficit diet.
 
If the guys who pin can do long cycles surely the same can now happen with transdermals?
 
TD Trest weeks 1 - 15 (100 mg)
M-Dien weeks 6 - 12 (8 mg)
AI weeks 1 - 15 (not decided on which one yet)
Prolactrone weeks 7 - 15 (2/3 caps a day)
Maybe run nolva throughout at 5/10mg
 
PCT
Nolva 20/20/10/10/10 eod/10 eod
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Maybe AI and prolactrone
 
I have a main question.  My partner is pregnant, is the TD wise?  If not can I take Trest orally for 15 weeks?
 
AI suggestions?
 
Thoughts?
 
 
 
 
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    Celt
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/04 20:21:29 (permalink)
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    Forgive me mate, but the stuff you're talking about is Trestolone Acetate, the nandrolone derivative, right?
     
    If so its methylated, if me I'd be careful of a cycle that long, but not entirely put off.
     
    Not sure what the rate of aromatisation is with it so I'd have that AI/Nolva on hand rather than run it from the start, but stacked with m-dien you'd be right to take precautions and have something on hand for potential prolactin issues.
     
    Any TD could theoretically transfer through skin contact, but I guess it comes down to how much of that you'd expect in pregnancy - some women are mad for it and others don't want their man near them
     
    Overall the risk would hopefully be pretty low unless the TD was one of those that requires a whole load of ml that fails to absorb properly.
     
     
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/04 21:03:42 (permalink)
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    Thanks for pointing that out, I hadnt realised.  How come people recommend it as a base? I thought stacking two methylated compounds was a no no.
     
    Bit of reasearch came up with this statement: "Trestolone is not 17a-alkylated, it's 7a-alkylated. It may elevate liver values slightly but it's nothing like 17a-alkylated compounds do."
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/04 23:16:05 (permalink)
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    It isn't c17 methyl, it has a methyl group at the 7 position, so it isn't really an issue.
    TD trest isn't estered, so it is just plain trest. No point in an ester on TDs.
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/05 11:43:08 (permalink)
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    So interested in this log cause ill do the same cycle,please say details!( M-Dien and td trest)
    post edited by Hispano - 2015/01/05 15:33:51
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/05 15:55:56 (permalink)
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    All looks like good to me bud, there is the potential for a number of sides but it does look like the necessary precautions are being made.
     
    I'm no expert so maybe someone can chime in, but at 15 weeks with something as suppressive as trest, I'd be wondering if HCG would be a sensible addition?
     
    Just make sure you have adequate time off!
     
    All the best mate!
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/05 16:10:03 (permalink)
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    Would be an option.
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/05 18:15:06 (permalink)
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    Cheers guys.  I'll log it when I start (end of Feb).  First of all I am going to have to shell out a small fortune for it all!! haha
     
    Ill probably through in some tudca just to be on the safe side.
     
    Silly question (probably) but is the only way of taking HCG via a needle?
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/05 18:46:36 (permalink)
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    Just noticed DermaTrest is out of stock on the JW website.  Anyone else stock it? Or know when it due back in stock?
     
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/05 20:30:35 (permalink)
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    Powermyself or predator have a version of it by iron labs or somesuch.

    Ugh is injection only
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/05 20:30:55 (permalink)
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    Hcg
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/06 10:26:00 (permalink)
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    simonboyle
    It isn't c17 methyl, it has a methyl group at the 7 position, so it isn't really an issue.
    TD trest isn't estered, so it is just plain trest. No point in an ester on TDs.




    So what compound is in it exactly?
     
    The only study I've seen on hepatotoxicity of 7α-methyl-19-nortestosterone, which is what I'm assuming is in this product, is here...
     
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20378929
     
    Is it the same compound in TD 'trest' or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/06 14:27:06 (permalink)
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    It is exactly that, just no ester, so no acetate.
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/06 14:58:30 (permalink)
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    I thought BK had oral Trest,or did i just dream it?
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/06 15:00:56 (permalink)
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    BK? Burger King?
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/06 15:02:07 (permalink)
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    Ups sorry BC (Bodyconscious)
    Anyway i´ve just seen in your web page you guys dont have it :D
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/06 15:27:47 (permalink)
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    yeah, we had celtic labs trestobol, sold out, struggle to get new stock as it sells out in the states too all the time.
     
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/09 18:39:33 (permalink)
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    Going by the other thread similar to this, people reckon I shouldnt run both together?
     
    My reasoning for adding M-Dien is I have read several logs that say people gained strength while still on a calorie deficit.
     
     
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/12 12:42:22 (permalink)
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    Last cycle i used M-Dien and i was on a calorie deficit and i gained strengh,more or less 5-8 kg more in the bench press
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    Re: Critique my possible next cycle please 2015/01/15 19:31:04 (permalink)
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    15 week cycle and only 2 weeks of 20mg Nolva in your PCT?

    Concern.

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