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2015/02/16 19:11:58 (permalink)
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Cycle for my Figure Model Wife

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My wife is on a journey to compete as a figure model and has been doing really well, but we are now ready for some 'help'. Please advise me on what would be the best cycle for her to help aid the fat loss whilst helping improve the muscle gains without her losing her feminine charms. My research has pointed me in the direction of ephedrine/caffeine, clenbuterol and anavar but I don't know in what dosage, how long for, etc.
 
Your constructive advice will be most welcome.
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Re: Cycle for my Figure Model Wife 2015/02/18 05:59:15 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby thoon 2015/02/20 06:08:58
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*ephedrine- start @ 10mg (then work to 20mg if she feels she needs to)
*var @5mg not to exceed 10mg
*clen@ 20mg and work to 40(if tolerable) for 3 weeks then take benedryl for a week to resensitize the receptors and go 2 more weeks like the first 3
*Do these upon wake-up w/strong coffee and maybe 6oz milk or yogurt to prevent any stomach issue. so mostly on an empty stomach before morning workout.
* after intense training(90mins) eat a large healthy breakfast
** this regiment done bright and early on an empty stomach will yield very noticeable results with no virtulization(but I do recommend sticking to 5mg on the var)
 
- if very serious then above can be repeated in the afternoon w/ var @ 2.5mg or 5mg ( I would really stay on the safe side and not exceed 10mg/ day...12.5 @ the very! most to feel comfortable and not worry.) I have seen women get beautiful results w/ 5mg of var daily
- also hcg would def be something to look into for her bro
 
 
 
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Re: Cycle for my Figure Model Wife 2015/02/18 11:01:37 (permalink)
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Thanks a lot for the reply, I was beginning to think my post was invisible lol.
 
How long would you cycle all of this for? Is 12 weeks okay?
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Re: Cycle for my Figure Model Wife 2015/02/18 16:14:30 (permalink)
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12 weeks I yes for a serious athlete... how do you feel about the hcg? Also I rethought about the morn milk or yogurt.... you may as well make it a 30g protein shake made w low cal powder and skim milk
 
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Re: Cycle for my Figure Model Wife 2015/02/19 00:07:23 (permalink)
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How does benadryl affect alpha and beta receptors that clen would stimulate? Benadryl or diphenhydramine is an H1 antagonists.
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Re: Cycle for my Figure Model Wife 2015/02/19 15:56:30 (permalink)
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 The diphenhydramine down regulates beta receptors keeping the tolerance to clen from increasing. From what I have seen:
Benadry at 50-100mg ED on every third week of clen cycle
You also NEED to use Taurine throughout the clen cycle as well. 3-5g/day. Taurine calms exitatory nerve pathways and helps prevent the shakes, heart palpitations, and cramps.

Are you getting ready for a show or just trimmin' up?
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Re: Cycle for my Figure Model Wife 2015/02/19 16:10:49 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby thoon 2015/02/20 06:08:49
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Just make sure your var is completely legit if you go down that route.
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Re: Cycle for my Figure Model Wife 2015/02/20 01:33:23 (permalink)
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great point and great avatar kaneda!
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Re: Cycle for my Figure Model Wife 2015/02/20 06:08:43 (permalink)
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All very good advice given so far  
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Re: Cycle for my Figure Model Wife 2015/02/20 11:33:15 (permalink)
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How does benadryl affect alpha and beta receptors that clen would stimulate? Benadryl or diphenhydramine is an H1 antagonists.
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Yes, I thought that this theory had been disproved and that the use of Benadryl does nothing to help the  Beta receptors recover?   
Greconate :Do you have some scientific references to show that it does?  
post edited by Dumbat - 2015/02/20 11:36:00

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Re: Cycle for my Figure Model Wife 2015/02/22 07:01:02 (permalink)
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Dumbat: I wanna thank you for the question because I honestly found no actual unbiased scientific studies that showed real evidence. Everything is theory based. That being said I think the theory dose hold water, but just not that much compared to Ketotifen.

 Effects of ketotifen and clen on beta-adrenergic receptor functions of lymphocytes
"Applying keto and clen together the beta-adrenergic receptor function increased compared to the values obtained after application of clen alone (intra-individual-control) as well as vs. the group of healthies (control). Data presented support the view that therapeutic doses of selective beta 2-agonists do not lead to damage of the beta-adrenoceptor function. The improvement of receptor function after parallel administration of clenbuterol and ketotifen may be a consequence of the participation of ketotifen in the control of beta-adrenergic receptor system."
 
I found plenty of different studies on ketotifen and clen that came up w/ similar outcomes. not to say Benadryl has no upside when taken w/ clen, but why not use a med that you know has the scientific backing?
 
The good news for Hulkin (the original poster) is he has time to get ketotifen (which seems to be quite superior to Benadryl) for his wife. My original suggestion was to use the clen for 3 weeks then hold off it while taking Benadryl for a week, then continue clen for 2 weeks on 1 off while using Benadryl for the rest of the 12 weeks if she is a substantially serious athlete.  Now I'm obviously on board w/ keto but am interested in if one should run it all the way through your course of clen or just during your week off between goes?  The more I read up on it i'm thinkin all the way through....  Any thoughts or experiences  ?
 
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