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Re: Dav's Powerlifting Journal 2018/10/12 09:30:11 (permalink)
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Great info, thanks Dav.
 
Would you say that the anti-inflam properties and mild pain relief is easily noticable as well?
 
I had no idea about the anti-estrogen effects, seems like a very worthwhile supplement to take then, instead of having to rely on harsher drugs such as Nolva and the likes.
 
Cheap as well! I already use it in a lot of my cooking as its such a versatile spice but I'm still not using anywhere near enough for supplementation benefits. Will def look into this now.

 
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Re: Dav's Powerlifting Journal 2018/10/12 12:11:06 (permalink)
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I felt the pain relief and less pain aspect (after intense workouts) within a week of taking it j4y but am taking a highish amount. Re the anti E/SERM effects its something that is well proven with regards to its actions and comparison with Nolvadex.

When I compete again I'll go as low dose as possible whilst achieving what I want. I will be running high dose turmeric alongside for its liver and heart protecting properties and as my main anti E/SERM. Some will say reckless but its working where Nolva didn't on my gyno and has excellent research on its effects with breast metastasis and as an Estrogen blocker. I'm not suggesting anyone else do so unless they feel totally happy with it.

I couldn't get on with Nolva (terrible sides for me), I've done a ton of research on it and it's ocular damaging potential (I was one of the unlucky ones) and other proven serious side effects is enough for me to avoid in the future. It's a very "dirty" out dated med and there are better and safer alternatives such as Raloxifene (same "family") which carries less sides and is more effective for gyno. As well as aromasin and arimidex for estro control whilst on cycle if need be. I will have the required ancillaries on hand but will run the Turmeric alone to see if its enough. Again as I said it's SERM activity is at least as good as Nolva when taken correctly and it's anti E actions are comparable with the milder AI's such as aromasin.
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Re: Dav's Powerlifting Journal 2018/10/12 13:28:45 (permalink)
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Very interesting dav and I will be trying the powder over the fresh stuff..

But I think we need to make very clear for any potential newb reading this that Turmeric should not be used in place of a serm for PCT purposes following a steroid cycle.

Also if you start developing on cycle Gyno you should always take Nolva.
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Re: Dav's Powerlifting Journal 2018/10/12 14:06:58 (permalink)
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Very interesting dav and I will be trying the powder over the fresh stuff..

But I think we need to make very clear for any potential newb reading this that Turmeric should not be used in place of a serm for PCT purposes following a steroid cycle.

Also if you start developing on cycle Gyno you should always take Nolva.


No I don't disagree mate, why I said unless you are happy to do so. I'm not suggesting someone else do so. I didnt get on with Nolva (damaged ocular vision which is reasonably common) and there are better alternatives out there Raloxifene being one which is proven to be more effective than Nolva for gyno and a less harmful med. As I said if/when I compete again I'd have it on hand if the turmeric didn't work in case of a gyno flair up.

I got the gyno from a pheraplex cycle (remember that lol a very potent oral). It works very differently most believing causing gyno due to prolactin. The Nolva didn't touch it but the Turmeric is doing wonders to 8 year old hard masses. Wish I'd have known about it at the time.

I actually wouldn't recommend anyone re anciliiaries when on cycle (many carry worse sides than AAS) and don't with my clients either. I understand that it's a public forum and people will read this and hopefully take it as my experience.
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Re: Dav's Powerlifting Journal 2018/10/13 04:51:51 (permalink)
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Did you get the vision sides then?
 
I remember reading a post from a previous member some years ago that also got it. He complained of 'light trails' most noticeably at night when driving. I believe it's permanent?
 
Fortunately I've not had any such issues and find nolva tends to agree with me very well, but I am obviously one of the lucky ones in that respect.
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Re: Dav's Powerlifting Journal 2018/10/14 19:09:25 (permalink)
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Yes Brett, floaters which have improved a little over the years and I'm used to them now lol. 6-10% will get serious visual damage of the cornea and retina and all those taking Nolva experienced damage to the eye cones from an American Ophthalmic society study. Its linked to how it binds to estrogen receptors in the eyes.

Didn't train yesterday as I woke with a migraine so trained this evening.

Squats (warm up followed by)

2x2 180kg
One drop off set of 1x6 140kg

SLDL

1x8 60kg
1x8 100kg
1x8 140kg
1x8 180kg
1x6 220kg

Dumbbell row

1x8 35kg
1x8 50kg
1x8 60kg

Decline bench press on Smith machine

1x8 60kg
1x8 100kg
1x6 140kg
1x6 150kg

Behind neck press (wide grip) on Smith machine

1x8 50kg
1x8 80kg
1x6 110kg

Shoulder rehab exercises.
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Re: Dav's Powerlifting Journal 2018/10/14 19:55:24 (permalink)
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Sunday is the swoley day after all. Lot of work for the day of rest

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Re: Dav's Powerlifting Journal 2018/10/15 16:24:42 (permalink)
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Nice work mate. I take it that behind the neck presses are okay for your shoulder woes then?
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Re: Dav's Powerlifting Journal 2018/10/15 21:50:48 (permalink)
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Just another training day DV but it was a decent workout!

Getting there Brett yes not 100% but feel OK.

Just squatting today

Warm up followed by

2x2 180kg

Back off set

145kg x6

Incline Crunches

3x8
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Re: Dav's Powerlifting Journal 2018/10/15 23:34:09 (permalink)
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160+ for reps fcuk me I am struggling to get to 100 LOL
 
Turmeric is supposed to be a great anti inflammatory for the body I've read a lot of people having good success with it for mental health issues

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Re: Dav's Powerlifting Journal 2018/10/16 07:17:07 (permalink)
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Great progress Dav, your journal is one that I regularly check due to similar interests/goals.
 
I wanted to discuss your results with Turmeric (I also take it, but nowhere near as high doses) but don't want to derail your journal, so will make a new post in the diet section.  

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