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2006/07/14 21:58:30 (permalink)
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Dbol Cycle

Cheers all!
I'm starting the following with Dbol:
10 weeks with weekends off@15mg each day. One single dose of 15mg on mornings.
Im doing 15mg and using 20mg Nolva to lower water retention by decreasing aromatization.
I want to use HGC during the cycle to avoid shrinkage of the twins. Thanks to Bigfella and PartyBoy for such great article!!
Want to start with 500IU twice per week and stop it 8 days before my last dbol dose. Six hours afterwards I will start off with more nolva for PCT.

My questions are:

What if I include 150 -200mg per week of T Propionate? Would it be worth it throughout the cycle? I know some of you would use more T on weekly basis...but I want to limit sides as much as possible. So what would be the min dose per week you think would be worth using?

What if on the second week of PCT I take a small 50mg of T Prop once a week for 2 weeks in order to avoid loosing gains while still restablishing endo T production?
Could it work?Or even small 50mg a week for 2 weeks during PCT would further inhibit the HPTA?

That's it for now-
Thanks in advance!
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    stone14
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    RE: Dbol Cycle 2006/07/14 22:47:10 (permalink)
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    your cycle is crap imo, it also look like you havnt done much research with those questions your asking, anyway.....

    15mg dbol ed for 10wks with wkends off is no good you need to take dbol ed to keep blood levels steady.

    the dose is best spread out through out the day i.e 5mg every 2-4 hours.

    nolv will reduce water retention but imo at 15mg ed there wont be much anyway, there wont be much of anything apart from shut down, gains included!

    HCG is a good choice to prevent testicular shrinkage but 500iu x2 per week will prob be too much if you only taking 15mg dbol 5days per wk.

    starting pct 6 hours after last dbol tab is wrong imo. im sure dbol has a half life of 6-8 hours. i would start pct 2-3days after so the dbol is clear of your system.

    150-200 mg of test prop per week is no good and is not werth doing.

    imo 500mg of test (long ester or sust) ew for 8 weeks and dbol at 30mg for the 1si 4wks will give you good results. if you are worried about sides you could try 250mg of test (long ester or sust) every 5 days if its your 1st cycle.

    using test prop or any aas during pct is no good, you will not recover during pct if you use aas along with it!

    imo this is a good 1st cycle

    weeks
    1-4 30mg dbol ed
    1-8 500mg test enth ew
    3-9 HCG 250iu-500iux2 per wk (250iu-500iu every 3.5 days)

    nolv if required for gyno/ water retention (only use during cycle if required)

    pct week10 (2weeks after last test jab)
    you can use clomid and nolv for pct or one or the other

    day1 clomid 300mg/ nolv 60mg ed
    2-11 clomid 100mg/ nolv 40mg ed
    12-21 clomid 50mg/ nolv 20mg ed










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    Vasc
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    RE: Dbol Cycle 2006/07/14 23:03:51 (permalink)
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    Stone I felt stoopid reading the first lines of your reply yet I do thank you lots for your recommendations.
    I've researched different info but I wasn't sure about the small doses of a quick acting T on PCT. Now I am though...so thanks.

    Some more questions though:

    You recommend 30mg ed for the first 4 weeks on dbol...what about the remaining 4 weeks? Nothing? Use Dbol only the first 4 weeks? Just want to be sure.

    ABout the T: I will try 250mg every 5 days of a long ester in order to keep sides at bay.
    Now the long acting T with the Dbol will def bring some water retention...do you think Proviron at 50mg a day would be better instead of Nolva?
    Any advice on how to avoid loosing gains when at the end of the cycle?

    thanks again-
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    Mr.Twitch
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    RE: Dbol Cycle 2006/07/14 23:04:47 (permalink)
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    i dont care for the cycle either..
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    RE: Dbol Cycle 2006/07/14 23:42:17 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Vasc

    1) Stone I felt stoopid


    2) You recommend 30mg ed for the first 4 weeks on dbol...what about the remaining 4 weeks? Nothing? Use Dbol only the first 4 weeks? Just want to be sure.


    ABout the T: I will try 250mg every 5 days of a long ester in order to keep sides at bay.

    3) Now the long acting T with the Dbol will def bring some water retention...do you think Proviron at 50mg a day would be better instead of Nolva?

    4)Any advice on how to avoid loosing gains when at the end of the cycle?

    thanks again-



    1) sorry i made you feel that way


    2) 4 weeks is all you will need of dbol to kickstart your cycle. at the end of the 1st 4wks your injections will have kicked in so there is no need to take dbol for longer.
    you realy only use orals like dbol for the 1st 4wks till your injections kick in.


    3) yes they may cause water retention and yes imo proviron would be a better choice. with your aas doses you are intending to use you may get away with only 25mg of prov ed, but if your worried about it just go for the 50mg if you like.

    also you can use prov and nolv together during your cycle which is effective also but you probably wont need both for this cycle.

    4) keep your training the same, as long as your diet is good and you have a well planned pct then you will keep most if not all your gains. (but remember some weight losss during pct may just be water not muscle.)

    you can use both of these or just one for pct

    day1 clomid 300mg/ nolv 60mg ed
    2-11 clomid 100mg/ nolv 40mg ed
    12-21 clomid 50mg/ nolv 20mg ed

    i have started using IGF1 with my pct and i keep all my gains plus i gain size but my weight stays the same. IGF1 is realy for more advanced aas users, i wouldnt can myself advanced i just choose to use it anyway to keep gains.




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    Vasc
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    RE: Dbol Cycle 2006/07/15 00:48:48 (permalink)
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    STONE you r one cool guy. Thanks a zillion!
    I'll go and follow your advice on my first cycle now.
    Cheers!
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    RE: Dbol Cycle 2006/07/15 11:08:38 (permalink)
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    stone has given the correct advice mate, good luck.

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    RE: Dbol Cycle 2006/07/16 20:36:48 (permalink)
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    There was nothing wrong with your original plan!
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