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Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary?

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2014/10/10 11:50:12 (permalink)

Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary?

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I'm starting a Dbol cycle (6 weeks, 40mg/day, split over the day, orally), I'm also taking 6iu of GH (been doing that for 4 weeks already).  My question is; Is it necessary to take TEST with the Dbol? Or can I just take the Dbol without the use of Test?
 
I just want to avoid IM injections.
Many thanks for any much needed advice .
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 12:23:38 (permalink)
well, if you want to avoid IM injections, then don't take test. at 6 weeks anyway, you would be wasting test kind of.
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 12:26:40 (permalink)
And it's ok to not take test while on Dbol?
I mean, I've read that my own test production will stop.  Is this ok?
 
(Of course I will do a course of PCT (Tamoxifen) after the course of Dbol.)
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 12:33:26 (permalink)
All steroids ''shut down'' natural testosterone production, it is par for the course, that is what you are doing the pct for.
your post makes me feel like you do not have an understanding on the subject, spend a few hours on here reading stickies etc.
 
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 12:39:07 (permalink)
I've read the articles about Dbol and Test many times. And other articles.  I've already used many hours reading. But I am no doctor that's for sure.  
 
I am only asking because someone I know said I MUST take test when doing a Dbol course.  I thought it sounded wrong, so I thought I would check. I trust you guys here more than people at my gym.
 
Thanks of relearning my uncertainty up. :)
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 13:25:10 (permalink)
it is not necessary at all, dbol works, and works well.  
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 14:13:59 (permalink)
Thanks :)
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 14:17:05 (permalink)
If I were going to use GH I would use test. Kind of a waste not to IMO. I would want the best bang for my buck when spending money on GH.
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 15:31:29 (permalink)
It's not about getting the most for my money. It's about avoiding IM injections, which I have bad experience with.
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 16:39:02 (permalink)
Stop being a little girl and inject, dbol is liver toxic rubbish that makes you gain a tonne of water and then lose it again, not to mention all the other sh*t sides that come with it.

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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 16:45:54 (permalink)
I've had 2 operations because IM injections went wrong, got infected (because there was **** in the stuff), I spent 8 days in hospital. And then 3 months without training. I do not dare risk that agin.
 
I think it's a little harsh to call me a little girl when you don't know my history.
 
By the way, 6'6 and 120kg.
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 16:49:22 (permalink)
Yeah, dbol works well. Look into TD treat also.
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 17:00:24 (permalink)
Leftleggedpineapple
I've had 2 operations because IM injections went wrong, got infected (because there was **** in the stuff)



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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 17:02:54 (permalink)
Test is not "necessary" but honestly you'd get more strength, muscle mass and fat loss from 500mg of testosterone per week than from 6IUs of GH a day. It'd cost a hell of a lot less too.
 
There are only two reasons for your IM injections to have caused such problems:
1) Your gear a **** and not sterile
2) You're clueless about pinning
 
First if you're gonna pin you should have a reliable source. Second doing an IM injection is not rocket science, takes 5 minutes to learn to do it properly.
 
I'd take the test instead of the dbol. Dbol is just test with more sides anyway.
post edited by Uriel - 2014/10/10 17:05:35
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 19:33:04 (permalink)
Uriel should be awarded with the MT best poster award!

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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/10 19:55:18 (permalink)
As above. Put some vagisil on your vagina and get to work.
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/11 10:56:49 (permalink)
If you have had a bad experience with injecting then its understandable that you want to avoid it again. The main issues of a DBOL only cycle that I have heard of are :
1 its a more toxic steroid which may cause issues.
2 its likely some of your gains will be water retention.
3 you may lose more perceived gains via the water bloat after the cycle.
To make the most of the cycle you will need to have your diet spot on, make sure you are getting plenty of fluids and have a really good PCT planned.
One thing to take on board though is the info above regarding your source. If you had such a bad reaction to IMI's it is quite likely you had bad gear. A bad oral might cause you more damage than a bad injectable so be very sure of your DBol before you take it.
 
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/11 15:17:19 (permalink)
nothing wrong with it at all,
 
very good cycle imho dbol only or dbol with hgh, if thats how you feel comfortable then thats down to you as an individual.
i would probably add clomid into pct tho because nolvadex does nothing to help or stimulate your own test production. but also bearing in mind it is a particularly mild cycle so i wouldnt sweat it 
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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/11 16:27:49 (permalink)
A nolvadex only PCT is fine, clomid has too many sh*tty sides IMO, and will probably turn the OP into an emotional wreck.

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Re: Dbol cycle + GH. Is TEST necessary? 2014/10/11 16:31:40 (permalink)
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A nolvadex only PCT is fine, clomid has too many sh*tty sides IMO, and will probably turn the OP into an emotional wreck.



 
interesting view point, obviously this is your own opinion as you've stated, I find it interesting, given nolvadex doesn't do anything to promote test production/sperm mobility and OP didn't use hcg on cycle (if he did I would marginally agree with you) so your view is to allow the body to start and rise production by itself whilst just using nolva to stop estrogen attaching to glandular tissue?
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