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2005/07/22 08:52:27 (permalink)
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Dbol only cycle. Opinions??

I was going to run the following Dbol only cycle and was wandering if you guys think it is ok?

Week 1-8
30mg dbol/day + 20mg nolvadex/day.

PCT
Day 1, 300mg clomid/day.
Day 2-11, 100mg clomid/day.
Day 12-21, 50mg clomid/day.

Thanks in advance for any comments.
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    Valley Fitness
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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 09:05:03 (permalink)
    Looks fine to me mate!
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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 09:21:46 (permalink)
    Hi

    Perhaps you should start the course without the nolva unless you know you are prone to gyno. If you are not then that is one less drug that you can take. Remember all drugs have sides to a certain degree.
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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 09:30:02 (permalink)
    I would say if you are going to use nolva, dont use more than 10mg and i wouldnt use the dbol for more than 6 weeks personally. Throw some test enanthate in there and uve got a lovely cycle!

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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 10:47:34 (permalink)
    i wouldn't use the nolvadex unless you get signs of gyno!

    you actually want water bloat from the dbol as this will give you a good strength increase.

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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 11:55:51 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: theweeninjaguy

    i wouldn't use the nolvadex unless you get signs of gyno!

    you actually want water bloat from the dbol as this will give you a good strength increase.

    ninja



    Absolutely agree.

    There's no need to run 20mg Nolva e/d mate throughout the cycle. Jusy keep nolva on hand in case gyno does occure, otherwise use it for you PCT.

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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 12:13:55 (permalink)
    Ditto all comments above

     
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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 15:32:00 (permalink)
    All the majority of articles I have read on dbol cycles all recommend to run nolvadex along side just incase gyno starts. I have ammended my cycle. I did think of running Test E aswel, but havn't got the bottle to start injections yet. I have made some slight changes to my cycle going on some of your recommendations. I would be grateful if anyone could let me know if you think my first cycle or my new cycle is better.

    Week 1-6
    30 mg/day Dbol + 20mg Every other day Nolvadex (only have 20mg tabs)

    PCT
    Day 1 - 300mg clomid + 20mg nolvadex
    Day 2-11 - 100mg clomid/day + 20mg every other day nolvadex.
    Day 12-21 50mg clomid/day + 20mg every other day nolvadex.
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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 17:41:11 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Archie130979

    All the majority of articles I have read on dbol cycles all recommend to run nolvadex along side just incase gyno starts. I have ammended my cycle. I did think of running Test E aswel, but havn't got the bottle to start injections yet. I have made some slight changes to my cycle going on some of your recommendations. I would be grateful if anyone could let me know if you think my first cycle or my new cycle is better.

    Week 1-6
    30 mg/day Dbol + 20mg Every other day Nolvadex (only have 20mg tabs)

    PCT
    Day 1 - 300mg clomid + 20mg nolvadex
    Day 2-11 - 100mg clomid/day + 20mg every other day nolvadex.
    Day 12-21 50mg clomid/day + 20mg every other day nolvadex.


    looks fine but as already said no need for nolva all the way through , just use when and if gyno arises , remember nolva has its own sides and is mildly liver toxic so why put the extra strain on liver if its not needed

    you could get away with lower doses on pct as well if its a dbol only cycle
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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 17:58:46 (permalink)
    Hi

    As already said there is no need for the nolva all the way through. Everyone before there first cycle is worried about all the possible side effects from AAS. However gyno does not just appear overnight in the majority of cases. You will first have the symptoms of gyno e.g itchy/puffy nipples, mild pain in the undeveloped gland under the nipple. If you check yourself twice a day and try to keep the paranoia to a minimum then if you do find yourself with any symptoms, that's when you start to treat it with nolva.

    Personally I don't get any symptoms until around week 5 of a typical test/dbol cycle. I only know this because I didn't use nolva through out my first cycle. There is a good chance that with just 30mg of dbol you will be fine.
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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 20:06:35 (permalink)
    fuk the nolva use dbol at a dose of 30-40mg a day for 4 weeks on 4 weeks off use some hcg on the last week for a week 500iu e-d then use clomid and other supps that may help boost natural test up to average levels,then repeat if need be,or use different gear next time,maybe a lil test by it self 500mg a week for 5-6 weeks or test/dbol/deca for a good bulking cycle oh and dont forget the most important substance foooooooood!
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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 20:24:55 (permalink)
    So would this be better then?

    Week 1-6
    30mg dbol/day

    PCT
    Day 1, 300mg clomid
    Day 2-11, 100mg clomid/day
    Day 12-21, 50mg clomid/day

    Don't take nolva unless I have signs of gyno. If so start at 20mg/day until symptoms disapear then at 10mg/day until the end of the cycle and pct.



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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 20:26:46 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Archie130979

    So would this be better then?

    Week 1-6
    30mg dbol/day

    PCT
    Day 1, 300mg clomid
    Day 2-11, 100mg clomid/day
    Day 12-21, 50mg clomid/day

    Don't take nolva unless I have signs of gyno. If so start at 20mg/day until symptoms disapear then at 10mg/day until the end of the cycle and pct.






    looks spot on to me mate but you should start the nolva at say 40mg ed until gyno symtoms subside and then use 20mg ed untill end
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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 20:28:15 (permalink)
    If I don't have gyno symptoms is it ok just to run clomid for pct, or would i be better running both clomid and nolva?
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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 20:30:24 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Archie130979

    If I don't have gyno symptoms is it ok just to run clomid for pct, or would i be better running both clomid and nolva?


    yes clomid only is fine for pct , if you start getting bad sides from clomid as many do switch to the nolva

    60mg day 1
    40mg day 2-11
    20mg day 12-21
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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 20:53:31 (permalink)
    Regards cycling dbol, would this be ok?

    Time off = Time on + PCT

    Or would I be better waiting longer?
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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 21:05:15 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Archie130979

    Regards cycling dbol, would this be ok?

    Time off = Time on + PCT

    Or would I be better waiting longer?


    well its same what ever med your going to use best to let your body recover then use again, only sure way is to have blood work done

    but yeah time off = time on +pct is fine imho
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    RE: Dbol only cycle. Opinions?? 2005/07/22 21:18:20 (permalink)
    Well I think i'm sorted now. Thanks for all the help guys. I'm not due too start my cycle for about 3 weeks but just getting everything cleared up first. When I start my cycle I might run a log and let everyone know how I get on.
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