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2014/11/24 10:31:48 (permalink)

Deadlifts strength/reps

So I am just wanting a little advice on what exercises I can do to strengthen my deadlift.

I have a 1 rep max of 170kgs. I would like to build on my repetitions I can do on this weight and eventually be able to deadlift more too.

So I was just wondering whether there were any other exercises that I would benefit from other than just deadlifting.

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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/11/24 11:21:32 (permalink)
From Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 book:
 
Question: What are the five best exercises to increase my deadlift?
Answer: Squats, deadlifts for reps, some kind of abdominal training (sit ups or leg raises), good mornings and Kroc rows (high rep dumbbell rows).
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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/11/24 11:21:33 (permalink)
Double post
 
post edited by alekan - 2014/11/24 12:38:13
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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/11/24 11:23:57 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby simonboyle 2014/11/24 13:26:45
More Deadlifts: Concentrate on your form.
If your form isn't good then you have to analyse where any weakness is, say the glutes.
In which case you could bring their strength up with another exercise like glute ham raises.
But really the best exercise for stronger/heavier Deadlifts is more Deadlifts.

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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/11/24 11:58:36 (permalink)
Ok that's great. I'll just have to start off on a light weight and concentrate on form not letting my ego take over. I think my downfall is that I have no one else to tell me where I'm going wrong as I train at home in my garage.
Taken lots of information in from Elliot Hulse's strength camp on YouTube. Real helpful guy. But thanks for all your advice.

Just another thing regarding SQUATS is that whenever I go ass to the grass it feels like my right leg socket wants to pop out! Any ideas??

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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/11/24 12:29:17 (permalink)
To check your form set up a video camera or use your phone, the quality doesn't have to that good.
Yes difficult to resist going for maxs but form is paramount.
 
As to your squats question.
It sounds like a strength imbalance or hip mobility issue.
 
I am sure that Elliot has a video addressing this issue.  

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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/11/24 12:31:55 (permalink)
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post edited by Dumbat - 2014/11/24 12:33:17

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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/11/24 12:32:28 (permalink)
Look for his series on Swiss fitness ball exercises I remember him having a vid where he is training someone to cure hip issues for Squats.
 
 
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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/11/24 12:51:02 (permalink)
Not swiss ball but this may help.?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7usNiXbA11w
 
 

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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/11/24 17:22:12 (permalink)
def more deadlifts but also try block pulls, deficit deads and things like good mornings and sldl... bent over rows and their variations will help too...
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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/11/25 15:23:08 (permalink)
Thanks for all the advice!

J

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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/11/25 17:20:01 (permalink)
Better tech and more deads. Do that first and go from there.
 
Once that has all gone well think what deadlift variant would likely to help your specific tech and trial that.
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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/12/04 05:25:18 (permalink)
Squatting and training your back.  Free weights are the best way to go.
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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/12/04 08:15:25 (permalink)
Deficit deads, rack pulls, speed work etc

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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/12/12 21:24:54 (permalink)
So my deadlifts seem to be more on form now I am deadlifting 170kg for 2 reps with what I feel is good form as I feel comfortable! Really pleased my strength is coming back now.

I also purchased some fat gripz and was deadlifting light weights to improve grip strength. I actually love this training aid. Really works the grip and forearms. Found it has really helped with my grip not failing! :)

J

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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/12/13 16:39:22 (permalink)
What's the point in 1x 170kg? (Or 2x 170kg)

Surely it's less strain and better for growth/fitness if you do say 5x5 at 150kg

If you're doing 5x5 consistently then all the muscles required for deadlifts will come in to balance.... then start on your 170kgs

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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/12/13 17:03:32 (permalink)
Heavy doubles have there place. Just as much as sets of 5. I dead lift twice a week. One session is doubles/singles the other is sets of 5.
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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/12/13 17:12:36 (permalink)
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Heavy doubles have there place. Just as much as sets of 5. I dead lift twice a week. One session is doubles/singles the other is sets of 5.


...which is fine when form is correct and there isn't a weak point.

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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/12/13 19:52:06 (permalink)
They are all good points.

I suppose I just like to see what I can push out really. Normally I warm up and do as many 100kg deadlifts as I can for 3 sets and just see how I feel during my workout. Using various weight and mixing it up using sumo stance etc.

I do normally go for 150kgs for 5. Do love the feeling of deadlifting and it is a fair point in balancing the body out.

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Re: Deadlifts strength/reps 2014/12/17 18:39:36 (permalink)
As mentioned, Deadlifts. I also find weighted pull ups great for forearm/grip strength. My gym has a pull up bar welded to a rectangular box section, i grab the box section with the fingers and leave the thumb out of the equation. Since starting these a year or so ago, ive noticed my forearms resemble that of a chimp lol, my grip strength has improved a lot. I did buy a set of heavy grips a few years ago 200, 250 and 300, but never really got into the habit of using them as much as i should, the squeaking started to wind up the misses:). I do regular pull ups too, without weights. My gym has a kind of shrug bar/frame (not sure what you call it). I wack a similar weight on to what i might deadlift, then hold it for as long as i can. It gets me used to holding the weight, without me having to do a full blown deadlift, the grips are quite high off the floor. If your gym doesnt have one, try walking around with a few heavy dumbells, as long as you can.
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