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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 08:03:59 (permalink)
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Wilder by KO. Can't believe anyone could back Fury.

A couple of years ago it would have benn a 50/50 but now it's more like 95/5 to Wilder.
There is no way Tyson has lost that amount of weight without seriously affecting his performance.

Fury needs to finish things early to have a chance and that's just not his style. I honestly see Tyson struggling to get off his stall from round 6 on through exhaustion.

It's going to be a heavy knockout and Tyson will retire on the back of it. Picking a round is the harder part but gun to head I plump for 8.

Would still much rather see a Fury win and would be happy to be proved wrong.

In these situatuons its best to face the music, lord knows i have =D
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 08:05:19 (permalink)
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There will be a re match what ever would not be suprised if they draw just look @ what happened with GGG v C.A 1st time around who would have thought they would draw.

Good shout.
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 08:05:54 (permalink)
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Wilder weighed in at 212 , but in reality if he had of taken the mask, his tracksuit bottoms and trainers (which I think he was wearing) he would probably weigh in at 209lbs (at 6,7").  Tonight he will be fighting at he same weight as a fully re-hydrated cruiser-weight but standing about 5 inches taller than most.  How low can he go? 200? 
 
All does not seem well (IMHO) and I think he way have hit the point were the power just is not there, hes an absolute beanpole of a man. Tyson will be very confident.
 
In reality he will be about 3 or 4 lbs lighter than when he beat Ortiz, Why??
 
The slow, flat footed, 6,4" and frankly tailor made Ortiz out boxed him to the 7 round point were he was nearly stopped.  Tyson is 6,9" and faster.
 
I have a feeling that this fight could be a magical draw. 28/1
 
Massive UK rematch in April.
 
If that not the script then Tyson to beat him quite comfortably (IMO)
 
If Wilder wins he will have excelled himself as hes never fought anyone near the size and ability of Tyson and at such a low weight.
 
Tyson would retire if he lost IMHO.

Spot on.
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 10:00:49 (permalink)
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That was so obvious seen that coming a mile off it was same as GGG v CA 1st time round big UK re match @ Wembley now no doubt.
Really enjoyed the fight well worth £19 how on earth TF got up from that in 12th he was sleeping
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 10:41:58 (permalink)
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The look on Wilders face when Fury got up after being knocked down. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IU1weP5-Vkw
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 11:12:38 (permalink)
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 11:19:40 (permalink)
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Very odd scorecard from the judge who had Wilder clear
 
Great fight and hard to to think Tyson got a bad deal out of that one.
 
Would expect Tyson to come in lighter and very well trained for the rematch, which he should win quite comfortably knowing what to expect this time.
 
Wilder is just a mystery.  How can he generate so much power at such a light weight?
 
Only had £20 on the draw, but would back Tyson confidently to win the rematch.
 
Very interested to hear peoples views on how both would fair against Joshua! ?
 
 
 
 
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 12:30:44 (permalink)
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Big re match in Wembley in the NYear i really think Ty couod trouble AJ well worth £19
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 12:54:39 (permalink)
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am i the only one who had wilder 4 ahead then?
 
I didn't watch live, just pulled a download with non English commentary, probably gives a clearer perspective than the uk commentary which is usually terribly biased.
post edited by teapot - 2018/12/02 12:56:36
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 13:03:38 (permalink)
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Yes, probably the only person outside the wilder camp too. Congrats..
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 13:12:23 (permalink)
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Yes, probably the only person outside the wilder camp too. Congrats..


I thought majority of furys shots were blocked, some of the rounds where pretty close so I can see the draw being scored, but no way was fury ahead on points.
 
I think you are probably the most biased poster we have here, incidentally just checked my fb and people saying fury was robbed blah blah, exactly the same crowd who kiss mcgreggor behind aswell and they were wrong about that too.
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 13:15:49 (permalink)
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Yes, probably the only person outside the wilder camp too. Congrats..


I thought majority of furys shots were blocked, some of the rounds where pretty close so I can see the draw being scored, but no way was fury ahead on points.
 
I think you are probably the most biased poster we have here, incidentally just checked my fb and people saying fury was robbed blah blah, exactly the same crowd who kiss mcgreggor behind aswell and they were wrong about that too.


Wasn’t a fan of Fury previously and deffo not a fan of McGregor but man Fury outboxed him easily. Have a look around you really are the only one mate.

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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 13:18:27 (permalink)
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ebbronx/status/1069108392227164160?s=12

MT deciding to not let link work again today. Its Paulie Maliggnagis verdict
post edited by Bookerman - 2018/12/02 13:19:44

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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 13:21:35 (permalink)
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Well, I think people are getting carried away with the romantic notion of a great comeback, fury moved better, he made him miss often to start with, wilder has no skill but as the fight went on i thought wilder landed more shots, the crowd were cheering when fury hit wilders gloves ffs, unless they have changed the rules then those shots mean nothing. i suggest you watch it without the commentary.
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 13:43:16 (permalink)
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Just about every world class boxer and independent pundit/expert had Fury winning by a wide margin. Many had him winning all but 3 rounds (2 10-8 rounds with the knockdowns)
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 13:49:10 (permalink)
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british judge scored 113 a piece, it was a close fight. i'm guessing i'm the only one here who watched without uk commentary. 
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 13:58:21 (permalink)
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I've not seen it so can't pass personal judgement. But Lewis, Mayweather and many all other top fighters had a clear majority win for Fury.

Regardless I do think with another 6 months training Fury would school Wilder. He is a very limited fighter (with power) who can't box, or not in a high level sense. Imo Fury took the fight too early but even if you think he's a prat it was an amazing comeback to take this fight after what he's been through and with such little ring time after a 3 year layoff and with the huge weight loss. Imo in a years time Fury does the same to Wilder and Joshua as he did to Wlad. He also showed true heart getting up from that 12th round knockdown.

He's very awkward, with speed and good movement for such a large guy. He also has a great boxing mind and adapts to who he fights. If he had KO power he would be a true heavyweight great.
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 14:14:37 (permalink)
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Just watched the 12th round knockdown. Very strange, if it wasn't for that there wouldn't be any question about a Fury victory. He initially looked out for the count then "seemed" to wake up. As he got up there was no effects of what seemed a knockout to legs or his thinking. He either has amazing recovery abilities or it was a fix.
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 14:17:42 (permalink)
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how can you judge, you have said above you haven't watched it? except for the knockdown in 12th, so how can you say except for that no question of a fury victory. It does help to watch the whole fight I find.
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Re: Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury 2018/12/02 14:20:52 (permalink)
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Because I've seen the highlights (just not every second of the fight) and read most of the comments from pundits and fighters. I'll watch the fight in full but regardless trust someone like Lennox Lewis, May weather or Freddie Roaches opinion more than mine (although I've boxed and done MA much of my life) or yours.
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