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We received an email about the article Diabetes & Bodybuilding
 
I just read your article on the meal plan for diabetic body builders -
written by a "nutritionist" with a BSc.  I'm kind of shocked, but not
really, as every encounter I've ever had with a "specialist" has been
atrocious.
The article begins by highlighting the body production of glucose.  Then, it
gets to the diet.  If I could swear here, I would **** ******* ****!  Awful.
So far out of line it is dangerous.
Speaking from experience, the only successful diet for diabetics is high
fat, high protein and low to zero carb intake.  Everything else, as your
article pointed out in the beginning, is turned into glucose which diabetics
cannot and will not ever be able to process.  Get it right - please, you're
killing people with this bad information.
My guess is that you won't care, so I'll abstain from divulging everything
I've learned unless you want to learn.
BR,
Andy.
 
Rather than enter into a pointless debate on private email, I'm raising it here for open discussion and emailing Andy the link.
 
The official bodies like the American Diabetes Association (ADA) and Diabetes UK advocate(d) a carb level of around 50% total energy (%TE), as long as it's low sugar and high GI carbs and made up of fibrous carbs preferably low GI, with moderate protein and total fat.
 
Obviously, here Andy is advocating the ultra-low-carb approach to diabetes, which indeed some people follow with good blood glucose control; indeed, the ADA has come around to this idea and openly admit there are numerous approaches to a suitable diet for diabetes, eg in some of the links here. Indeed, there's evidence that the ultra low carb approach* can be dangerous for long-term health in an already at-risk population subgroup.
 
However, Andy is certainly wrong to suggest that the plan is 'so far out of line it's dangerous' because, if he is, then he needs to be sending a similar email to 1,000s of other websites including the ADA, Diabetes UK and the NHS. We are certainly NOT 'killing people'; indeed, there are 100,000s diabetics living long and healthy lives on the conventional approach.
 
If Andy is from the UK, then, as the US count fibre in total carbs, then the mention of 'zero' carbs leads me to assume there's next to zero dietary fibre in the diet he recommends.
 
I'd be wrong to assume that Andy is advocating a ketogenic approach as he doesn't mention this, but it's worth pointing out that his regimen would not be ketogenic as it would be high in glucogenic amino acids.
 
So, also 'speaking from experience', a diet like the approach in the article, is successful for diabetics. Andy is also very wrong to assume that we 'won't care' because we certainly do.
 
Open to debate, and would love to hear from diabetics and the approach they take. For reference, I do feel the 50%TE carbs is a little high as it's unnecessary: I'm more for around 40%TE from available carbs and fibre with low sugar, of course.
 
 
*zero carbs is not possible unless you eat solely meat
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    Re: Diabetes & Bodybuilding 2019/01/09 08:31:01 (permalink)
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    How kind of them to email :)
     
    Medical science is always changing, and over time potential remedies or cures will change too. 
     
    With my limited knowledge on the subject, I know a few people who have diabetes and they all range in their health status and nutritional approach. Some manage it very well, and others not.
     
    I saw a program recently that suggested an ultra low calorie diet (800 cals I think) for 8 weeks can have very dramatic effects on ones symptoms of diabetes, and that it was something the NHS were looking into. However, it didn't then mention the post diet protocol... Could be a huge rebound!   

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    Re: Diabetes & Bodybuilding 2019/01/15 15:49:51 (permalink)
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    The_Lone_Wolf
    How kind of them to email :)
     
    Medical science is always changing, and over time potential remedies or cures will change too. 
     
    With my limited knowledge on the subject, I know a few people who have diabetes and they all range in their health status and nutritional approach. Some manage it very well, and others not.
     
    I saw a program recently that suggested an ultra low calorie diet (800 cals I think) for 8 weeks can have very dramatic effects on ones symptoms of diabetes, and that it was something the NHS were looking into. However, it didn't then mention the post diet protocol... Could be a huge rebound!   


    I guess the ultra-low-calorie diet will depend on if they are obese in the first place; for someone who's normal weight, this could be an issue...
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