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Difference between body building and powerlifting

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2004/02/15 23:53:34 (permalink)
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Difference between body building and powerlifting

Hey
What exactly is the difference between the type of training for body building and the type of training for powerlifting
Please show me some 3 day workout routines for each? thanx
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    PsYoP78
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/16 00:00:58 (permalink)
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    From what I understand, powerlifters will focus more on lifting to failure than bodybuilders. Also, the rest time between sets is shorter for bodybuilders. As far as routines, I think they're about the same for beginning and intermediates. For advanced bodybuilders, they include more focused exercises to shape the muscles too.
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/16 00:21:32 (permalink)
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    Rep range.
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/16 12:15:40 (permalink)
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    i have a new perspective, shaped by j5*. thier is a difference, but there shouldn't be. both hypertrophy AND the nuerological adaptations that lead to increased strength/power are directly correlated to load, volume and frequency. in that order.

    in the sense that if recovery and growth happened instantaniously, the perfect routine would lokk like this:

    1RM on all compuond lifts, all day, every day.

    due to us all being human, we cannot do this. we need rest, and time+food to recover and grow. so basically go as heavy as you can [within reason], and as often as you can.

    rob
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/16 12:21:16 (permalink)
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    *=see recent thread on rep range, superslow and one or two other, j5's contribution gives a better explanation.
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/16 13:32:28 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by PsYoP78

    From what I understand, powerlifters will focus more on lifting to failure than bodybuilders.

    I think you'll find you've got that backwards. Powerlifters will pretty much never go to failure, if a powerlifter goes to failure it means they've misjudged they're strength.
    A powerlifter can't go to failure because considering the weights and exercises used it would just be dangerous.

    M5
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/16 15:55:10 (permalink)
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    so mikey, have i got this right then?!?!?!
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/16 16:08:11 (permalink)
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    powerlifters tend to go for more explosive movements using various different muscles all at once, they look to train their enire bodies to be more powerful whereas a bodybuilder will train each muscle to be bigger.
    speed at which they move the weights also varies hence the "power" a powerlifter focuses on shifting the weight as explosively as possible compared with a b.b who will prefer to take a slightly slower approach to each rep to break the muscle down.

    ex.powerlifter
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/17 21:39:31 (permalink)
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    Powerlifters try to strengthen fast twitch fibers versus slow twitch.
    Powerlifter train heavy, less reps in hopes of strengthening tendons
    to handle greater weight, thus train compounds once per week because tendons take longer to recover than muscle tissue....5-7 days...what I've read anyways. Powerlifter typically use a program where they peak there
    maximum strength at the right time..competition!
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/17 22:46:10 (permalink)
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    Powerlifters train to increase their strength as much as possible, and don't care what their physique looks like.

    Bodybuilders primary goal is developing physique, regardless of strength.

    You win bbing competetions by how you look, and powerlifting competitions by how heavy you can lift.

    The 2 different goals require two differnt types of training, although some amature bodybuilders use "hybrid" routines which include powerliftuing techniques.
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/18 08:27:06 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by blitzseth

    Hey
    What exactly is the difference between the type of training for body building and the type of training for powerlifting
    Please show me some 3 day workout routines for each? thanx



    two things differ in my opinion:

    1. diet: bodybuilders eat strict, powerlifters eat what they want providing they stay in their weight bracket.

    2. "sport specific training". because of the big three lifts powerlifters have to build their routines to serve these lifts. One example would be to work bench press movements way more in expense of overhead pressing.

    Other than that, i'd think routines, rep ranges, rules about failure etc would ideally be pretty much the same for both, though most bodybuilders seem to disagree with this.
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/18 08:41:25 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by MikeyFive

    quote:
    Originally posted by PsYoP78

    From what I understand, powerlifters will focus more on lifting to failure than bodybuilders.

    I think you'll find you've got that backwards. Powerlifters will pretty much never go to failure, if a powerlifter goes to failure it means they've misjudged they're strength.
    A powerlifter can't go to failure because considering the weights and exercises used it would just be dangerous.

    M5



    I strongly disagre with your going to failure statement. I train to failure every workout and I am a powerlifter. It depends on what you would describe as being "failure"
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/18 11:47:56 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by bencher

    quote:
    Originally posted by MikeyFive

    quote:
    Originally posted by PsYoP78

    From what I understand, powerlifters will focus more on lifting to failure than bodybuilders.

    I think you'll find you've got that backwards. Powerlifters will pretty much never go to failure, if a powerlifter goes to failure it means they've misjudged they're strength.
    A powerlifter can't go to failure because considering the weights and exercises used it would just be dangerous.

    M5



    I strongly disagre with your going to failure statement. I train to failure every workout and I am a powerlifter. It depends on what you would describe as being "failure"


    I mean you don't need to go past failure (forced reps etc), espceically on your main lifts.

    M5
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/18 12:16:20 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by MikeyFive

    quote:
    Originally posted by bencher

    quote:
    Originally posted by MikeyFive

    quote:
    Originally posted by PsYoP78

    From what I understand, powerlifters will focus more on lifting to failure than bodybuilders.

    I think you'll find you've got that backwards. Powerlifters will pretty much never go to failure, if a powerlifter goes to failure it means they've misjudged they're strength.
    A powerlifter can't go to failure because considering the weights and exercises used it would just be dangerous.

    M5



    I strongly disagre with your going to failure statement. I train to failure every workout and I am a powerlifter. It depends on what you would describe as being "failure"


    I mean you don't need to go past failure (forced reps etc), espceically on your main lifts.

    M5



    "training to failure" describes training in a manner where each set is continued to the point where further concentric repetitions "in good form" cannot be completed under the lifter's own volition. I don't mean beyond failure
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/18 13:47:21 (permalink)
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    Traditionally, most powerlifters don't lift to failure (maybe on some assistance exercises though) and bodybuilders train to failure during all sets (apart from their warm-up sets).

    However there are a lot of exceptions to this rule. The first is the so-called 'power bodybuilder' (a term coined by Don Ross I believe). These guys are powerlifters (generally in the higher weight classes) who do train to failure on most sets. Guys like Ted Arcidi, Chris Confessore and the strongest man of all time IMO, Bill Kazmaier are 'power bodybuilders'. Reps are generally in the 3-10 range and result in a fair bit of hypertrophy which is why it is mainly heavyweight lifters who train this way. The vast majority of top strongmen train in this way as well. I suspect this is how bencher trains as well?

    On paper, a 'power bodybuilders' program would look very similar to a typical bodybuilders program in terms of number of sets, reps (maybe a bit higher for the bodybuilder) and training to failure. The main difference is attitude. The bodybuilder generally wouldn't be too concerned with how much weight they used but the powerlifter would be constantly looking to increase the weight.

    There are also a few bodybuilders who don't train to failure, preferring to leave a few extra reps in the tank during each set. To compensate for this they have to greatly increase the number of sets per session. I believe Jay Cutler trains this way.

    There are many ways to skin the powerlifting and bodybuilding cat, and each approach/style has produced equally as strong and/or big lifters.

    If your looking for a three day a week powerlifting routine, here is Andy Bolton’s (the other one) routine:

    Monday:
    Bench press, followed by chest, shoulder and triceps assistance work.

    Wednesday:
    Squat and deadlift, with some lower back and abdominal work.

    Friday:
    Assistance work for traps, upper back, hamstrings, triceps and biceps.

    Typing posts on muscletalk is so much more enjoyable than doing my uni coursework.
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/18 14:26:15 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Andy Bolton

    Traditionally, most powerlifters don't lift to failure (maybe on some assistance exercises though) and bodybuilders train to failure during all sets (apart from their warm-up sets).

    However there are a lot of exceptions to this rule. The first is the so-called 'power bodybuilder' (a term coined by Don Ross I believe). These guys are powerlifters (generally in the higher weight classes) who do train to failure on most sets. Guys like Ted Arcidi, Chris Confessore and the strongest man of all time IMO, Bill Kazmaier are 'power bodybuilders'. Reps are generally in the 3-10 range and result in a fair bit of hypertrophy which is why it is mainly heavyweight lifters who train this way. The vast majority of top strongmen train in this way as well. I suspect this is how bencher trains as well?

    On paper, a 'power bodybuilders' program would look very similar to a typical bodybuilders program in terms of number of sets, reps (maybe a bit higher for the bodybuilder) and training to failure. The main difference is attitude. The bodybuilder generally wouldn't be too concerned with how much weight they used but the powerlifter would be constantly looking to increase the weight.

    There are also a few bodybuilders who don't train to failure, preferring to leave a few extra reps in the tank during each set. To compensate for this they have to greatly increase the number of sets per session. I believe Jay Cutler trains this way.

    There are many ways to skin the powerlifting and bodybuilding cat, and each approach/style has produced equally as strong and/or big lifters.

    If your looking for a three day a week powerlifting routine, here is Andy Bolton’s (the other one) routine:

    Monday:
    Bench press, followed by chest, shoulder and triceps assistance work.

    Wednesday:
    Squat and deadlift, with some lower back and abdominal work.

    Friday:
    Assistance work for traps, upper back, hamstrings, triceps and biceps.

    Typing posts on muscletalk is so much more enjoyable than doing my uni coursework.



    pretty much spot on with the "power bodybuilding" thing ANdy, good post! Get back to yer books, bloody student...
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/19 02:10:21 (permalink)
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    I'm am most interested in physique, so im a body builder, but i also want more size. So shouldi go on a powerlifting routine to build mass first, adn then switch to a body building routine?
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/19 11:48:52 (permalink)
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    The traininng should be pretty much the same

    The difference is that Bodybuilders are looking to add size, powerlifters are looking to add strength in certain lifts

    Therefore it is only really the choice of exercises which will vary and the reason behind that choice. Sets reps etc will vary between individuals but not between the different disciplines
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    RE: Difference between body building and powerlifting 2004/02/20 17:19:58 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by bencher

    pretty much spot on with the "power bodybuilding" thing ANdy, good post! Get back to yer books, bloody student...



    Cheers bencher, and believe me, I hate being a student much more than you dislike them! Only about four months to go though

    How's the training going BTW? Are you gonna be putting up some even bigger numbers this year?
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