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2014/11/14 07:42:17 (permalink)
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Do you ever intend to stop?

I did a simple test E cycle last year and have to say that I enjoyed the strength/size gains. I hated the bloat, however I knew I could probably have taken care of this with some anti water drugs. Also after I came off I was depressed and found it hard on my libido.
 
The one thing that really put me off was the thought of continually using and knowing that I'd probably struggle in the future to ever make natural progress, essentially meaning that I'll have to stay on gear long term.
 
What is your mentality? Do you treat yourself to a cycle once a year? Twice a year? Stay on forever?
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Re: Do you ever intend to stop? 2014/11/14 08:00:52 (permalink)
I've just begun blasting and cruising I've always done cycles with full pcts
And then jumped back on cycle to the point I've come to terms that I may as well cruise instead of "coming off"
For me if you intend to future cycle again and again then pct really isn't worth the hassle
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Re: Do you ever intend to stop? 2014/11/14 08:13:49 (permalink)
People get this all wrong. Yes if you stay on you'll reach a point where you won't be able to make any progress naturally, but that'll just be because you'll already be bigger and stronger than you ever could naturally.
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Re: Do you ever intend to stop? 2014/11/14 14:28:39 (permalink)
I do think about the day i hang up the AAS. But that is something i will deal with when it happens. Will have to plan a good pct and long term recovery as it needs to be taken seriously i think. Maybe end up on trt Test for many years till im in a nursing home lol

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Re: Do you ever intend to stop? 2014/11/14 15:04:05 (permalink)
I'm 51 n have done AAS cycles for the last 20 or so years...I now stay on test @ 250mg ew n blast when i feel...I find this way I tend to keep my gains n i'm not so worried about banging in big mg's for 12+ weeks to gain as much as poss n then try n hold onto them after pct....Also I don't run SERM's or AI's with my blast (don't get many sides thank fcuk) I find they mess with me more than the AAS tbh, so I don't really want to take them for pct either, i'd rather keep on the test.
I do monitor my bp n colesterol tho n take HCG at 500iu's ew too.  

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Re: Do you ever intend to stop? 2014/11/14 16:36:26 (permalink)
I've been blasting and cruising for many years. I am now in a relationship where we are looking to have children so am doing a really heavy pct but it may be to late the long term damage may have gone past repair...food for thought for the younger members...
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Re: Do you ever intend to stop? 2014/11/14 17:07:11 (permalink)
to date i've always just done one or two cutting cycles prior to holiday. got it down to a fine art tbh. will pct i can keep 90-95% of my gains after pct, i don't get all needy and weepy on pct and feel good afterwards. however i'm now thinking of possibly just blasting and cruising. 1 injection per week is still much much more than my body would naturally produce and when i want to gain/cut i can do so without having to plan a 6 week pct as i do at the moment.
 
also my mate is 62 and just blasts and cruises and he literally has the body of a 30 year old and a sub 10% body fat % all year round! his mates are all ****ed and knackered with age and he's still out of the box new! no arthritis, no sore backs, no sore knee when it rains etc which apparently all his mates complain of. also no problem libido wise.  
 
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Re: Do you ever intend to stop? 2014/11/14 19:39:11 (permalink)
No plans to stop.
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Re: Do you ever intend to stop? 2014/11/15 15:49:32 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby theweeninjaguy 2014/11/18 00:55:38
The only reason that I would stop would be if I developed some serious medical condition that made this neccessary.
Not likely to be due to my steroid use but probably due to age.
My health has actually improved since I started using Steroids as I now pay greater attention to it.
Last E.C.G. I had was perfect without allowing for my age (48)

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Re: Do you ever intend to stop? 2014/11/16 22:42:42 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby theweeninjaguy 2014/11/18 00:55:58
Right there with you Dumbat. Except not 48yo. My health has only gotten better. I don't drink like I did or do other party favors at all. Better diet and more exercise. Tell me again why this is not legal to buy over the counter?
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Re: Do you ever intend to stop? 2014/11/19 11:25:42 (permalink)
Ok potted history here.... trained off and on for 20 plus years (more on then off) never used AAS. I quit training for the longest period ever 5 years ago. I decided to go back to the gym just over a year ago having hit my forties and feeling really crap about how I felt. Everything hurt like hell! I never had any injuries training in the past and never really warmed up or down or stretched etc. This time round I hurt my rotator cuff straight away and needed physio, legs got so sore after even light training I could barley walk for days after...etc. Anyhow I started reading up on training for over forties and hit loads of posts on TRT. I realised that after having a vasectomy which at the time they promised would not effect hormone levels (since disproved) and a bout of depression I was very likely to be suffering with low test levels. I read up on the process of getting TRT on the NHS and decided it would be a massive ball ache (pun intended). I would also have to pay for the prescriptions so its not like it would be free. In the end I decided to try and self med using a cycle of testosterone. Within 1 week of using test I lost the niggling shoulder pain I have had for twelve months, also noticed a lot of other aches lessened, training improved, DOMs went back to a day or two not a full week and I generally felt better. Anyhow I quickly realised PCT would be totally pointless for me and I will now be cruising indefinatley. I will blast when I feel like it probably 2-3 times per year and stay on a low dose the rest of the time. Unless I get some negative health issues or sides that cant be easily countered.
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Re: Do you ever intend to stop? 2014/11/19 11:34:06 (permalink)
Interesting that you're describing the health benefits.

I'm not sure how I feel about long term cruising but I do know that the anxiety I felt post cycle was horrific! I'm almost certain I'd hit my genetic limit and now a year later I'm at the point that I hit from 12 weeks on gear...madness.
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Re: Do you ever intend to stop? 2014/11/19 15:44:30 (permalink)
Genetic limits are touted a great deal as reasons both to use and not to use AAS. Personally I wish I had used much sooner but as of now I am using them to replace / increase my natural test levels. I will never be a competitive BBr but enjoy training. I am 42 and have no intention of nor ability to have more kids so why stress my body with cycles and PCT, gain and lose?? I can cruise on a low dose which will be higher than my natural level is now, blast if and when I want to and keep more gains.
In terms of health benefits and risks I can only tell you that I hurt my shoulder 12 months ago and was on daily doses of ibuprofen and paracetamol as high as the daily max. I attended physio sessions for months which did help but never got rid of the pain. I couldnt train chest or shoulders without pain and I couldnt do other normal activities without discomfort. Even taking the kids swimming aggravated it. Since I started using test I have had no pain and only a little discomfort after very heavy pressing. If you check the health risks associated with both paracetamol and ibuprofen against the health risks (genuine not media hyped) of testosterone.......judge yourself.
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Re: Do you ever intend to stop? 2014/11/19 16:01:17 (permalink)
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Interesting that you're describing the health benefits.

I'm not sure how I feel about long term cruising but I do know that the anxiety I felt post cycle was horrific! I'm almost certain I'd hit my genetic limit and now a year later I'm at the point that I hit from 12 weeks on gear...madness.



We have to be careful in describing "health benefits" yes there are some physical improvements to be enjoyed from steroid use but there are also a host of risks.
In my post I stated that my health as improved, this is not due to the steroids themselves but due to me changing my lifestyle accordingly.

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Re: Do you ever intend to stop? 2014/11/19 16:47:18 (permalink)
Ok when I say health benefits I am talking about the personal benefit to risk profile associated with AAS use compared with non prescription pain killers. I appreciate there are risks associated with using AAs and accept those. I am not promoting their use but simply giving my own personal experience and opinion. Choice is a factor people tout for a whole range of issues but it should be informed choice. I havent simply jumped onto AAS use without thought to the possible consequences and certainly not without a great deal of study first. If everyone who cracked open a can of beer or sparked up a ciggarrette took the time to research the possible effects first then maybe we would have fewer alchohol related deaths in the UK.
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Re: 2014/11/25 16:50:04 (permalink)
Wondering when Gary is going to get banned for posted bogus advice, promoting and selling gear?

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Re: 2014/11/25 17:18:05 (permalink)
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Wondering when Gary is going to get banned for posted bogus advice, promoting and selling gear?



Think it's already happened mate lol

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Re: 2014/11/25 17:49:12 (permalink)
Every cycle I do is my last one , at 39 the truth is I feel better on test aside from bigger and looking better  , I did have 8 years off through injury in 2003 and its like that time just vanished , maybe I never fully recovered , don't have any immediate plans to stop .
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Re: 2014/11/29 16:17:18 (permalink)
simple answer no
 
Started to get big
Now to maintain as much as i can
 
When no gym then no AAS thats basically it for me
 
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Re: 2014/11/29 17:28:22 (permalink)
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simple answer no
 
Started to get big
Now to maintain as much as i can
 
When no gym then no AAS thats basically it for me
 
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can't quite imagine the no gym bit tbh - i train with a 62 year old
 
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