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2005/07/25 18:42:53 (permalink)

Do you include the weight of the bar?

When you are working out how much you lift do you include the weight of the bar? I personaly do include the weight of the bar i.e. on my bench press I currently do 3x12 at 49KG + 10KG for my bar (7ft non olympic bar) = 59KG. Just curious to see if anyone else does this?
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    Slyblackdragon
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 18:44:47 (permalink)
    I always have. In comps they count the bar....
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    Keyser Sozay
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 18:45:54 (permalink)
    No, mine are exclusive...which probably explains why my Bench is so p1ss poor!! (70Kg 3 x 6)

    KS.
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 19:00:58 (permalink)
    Bar weight should be included.
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 19:02:30 (permalink)
    If you lift it then you count it
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 19:04:11 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Keyser Sozay

    No, mine are exclusive...which probably explains why my Bench is so p1ss poor!! (70Kg 3 x 6)

    KS.



    LOL. Well look at mine. Mines is only 59KG (inc bar) for bench press at 3x12. But before I got shoulder injury just before christmas I was doing 3x8 at 92KG (inc bar). It's a bit demoralising to see how much I have had to drop just to try and build my shoulder up again.
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 19:09:24 (permalink)
    So if you are deadlifting and you get your boys stuck on top of the bar at lockout, you count them too?
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 19:11:36 (permalink)
    I always include the weight of the bar.
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 19:19:54 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Slyblackdragon

    So if you are deadlifting and you get your boys stuck on top of the bar at lockout, you count them too?



    LMAO. But some are bigger than others.
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 19:39:31 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: dirtyvest

    If you lift it then you count it


    Agree!
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 19:43:47 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Archie130979


    ORIGINAL: Keyser Sozay

    No, mine are exclusive...which probably explains why my Bench is so p1ss poor!! (70Kg 3 x 6)

    KS.



    LOL. Well look at mine. Mines is only 59KG (inc bar) for bench press at 3x12. But before I got shoulder injury just before christmas I was doing 3x8 at 92KG (inc bar). It's a bit demoralising to see how much I have had to drop just to try and build my shoulder up again.


    That's a steep drop...your tri's must be the only parts of your body laughing!!!

    Not poking fun, just trying to lighten what must be a disheartening situation for you mate. Strangely enough, I broke my right arm about 15 months back playing soccer (long story!), and now my right arm is stronger than the left!! Go figure!!

    Are your overhead presses proportionately weaker too?

    Back on topic...I can't be asked to count the bar, I'd end up getting confused whether my training sheet includes or excludes the bar. In any case, I've got a few bars, one from the 60's, and from Argos a standard bar + an EZ curl one - I have NO idea what any of the buggers weigh, so until I do, I'll keep with the exclusive, and quote (+bar) when posting my lifts.


    KS
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 20:11:28 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Keyser Sozay


    ORIGINAL: Archie130979


    ORIGINAL: Keyser Sozay

    No, mine are exclusive...which probably explains why my Bench is so p1ss poor!! (70Kg 3 x 6)

    KS.



    LOL. Well look at mine. Mines is only 59KG (inc bar) for bench press at 3x12. But before I got shoulder injury just before christmas I was doing 3x8 at 92KG (inc bar). It's a bit demoralising to see how much I have had to drop just to try and build my shoulder up again.


    That's a steep drop...your tri's must be the only parts of your body laughing!!!

    Not poking fun, just trying to lighten what must be a disheartening situation for you mate. Strangely enough, I broke my right arm about 15 months back playing soccer (long story!), and now my right arm is stronger than the left!! Go figure!!

    Are your overhead presses proportionately weaker too?

    Back on topic...I can't be asked to count the bar, I'd end up getting confused whether my training sheet includes or excludes the bar. In any case, I've got a few bars, one from the 60's, and from Argos a standard bar + an EZ curl one - I have NO idea what any of the buggers weigh, so until I do, I'll keep with the exclusive, and quote (+bar) when posting my lifts.


    KS



    My overhead presses are crap now. I am currently on 3x12 at 34KG (inc bar) before my injury I used to do 3x8 at 70KG (inc bar). It used to be my strongest exercise, now it is probably my worst.
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 20:49:35 (permalink)
    Of course, but I dont for OHP as I'm unsure of the weight, it's like a mini oly bar
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 21:06:18 (permalink)
    My bench press is so poor that I would even count the weight of the spring clips if I thought it would help my stats look better, never mind the bar!

    Oldgit

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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 21:14:16 (permalink)
    I don't, but then again there is a bit of a running discussion of the weight of the bars at my gym.
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/25 23:30:48 (permalink)
    Hell yes you have lifted it, so count it
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/26 01:08:24 (permalink)
    yes i count the bar

    weight is weight lifted afterall
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/26 02:24:31 (permalink)
    i do!! anything to make me sound stronger

    if you're going through hell. keep going.
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/26 02:25:51 (permalink)
    i mean i include gravity, and any sort of downward breeze to add an extra few kilos to my PB.

    "wahey 90 kgs, and on quite a windy day to, plus there were people sneezing in the gym and stuff...."

    if you're going through hell. keep going.
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    RE: Do you include the weight of the bar? 2005/07/26 04:17:29 (permalink)
    can I count the collars?
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