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2019/01/09 14:06:44 (permalink)
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Do you meditate ?

If so, any good for you ?
 
Been looking online, and most I read about it is positive, even Arnie allegedly does two 20mins a day. (so must be good)
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/09 20:18:48 (permalink)
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    When I can yes, should do it more regularly. Find it very beneficial and relaxing (obviously lol). Use a quantum breathing form of meditation as after trying different techniques found this the easiest for me to get into a deep state of meditation.
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/10 11:58:02 (permalink)
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    I posted about this a few weeks ago.  I have recently finished reading a mindfulness book which had a guided 8 week course.  I am now trying to meditate on my own (I actually prefer it without the guidance).  I need to find a way to make it a habit and weave it into everyday life.  I'm getting better but some days get to bed time and realise I've not done it.
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/10 12:03:43 (permalink)
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    Jusr getting into it, feel i need give my brain a rest. Been stressed lately, thinking too much. lol
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/10 12:31:48 (permalink)
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    Jusr getting into it, feel i need give my brain a rest. Been stressed lately, thinking too much. lol



     
    Me too.  What I've learnt so far is, it's not about stopping the thoughts as they will continue to pop up in your mind.  It's more about being to able to recognise the thought, let it go and return to your breathing.  And I suppose with practice this then bleeds into everyday life.  
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/10 13:28:20 (permalink)
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    Yes.
     
    I mediate for at least twenty minutes every day.
     
    Iv'e been practising Vipassana (Mindfulness) regularly for the past two years. I'm now practising Metta (Loving Kindness) and am finding that it is really helping with my anxiety.
     
    Since I started meditating regularly I have found myself to be less reactive and irritable. It's well worth the investment of twenty minutes today but it isn't a silver bullet.
     
    If you want to get into the habit then I would recommend having a set time that you meditate each day. I do it after my breakfast and before my morning shower. It's just part of early morning routine now. I use a Zafu on top of a Zabuton and sit in the Burmese posture, but you can use a chair or lie down (providing you don't fall asleep).
     
    I found the Headspace App good for getting me into a regular routine.
     
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/10 15:43:56 (permalink)
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    Not knocking it but I can't think of anything more boring or pointless than making a conscious effort to do fcukall for 20 mins. Surely just sitting watching tele but not really taking an interest in it is meditating. Seems the same thing to me. 

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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/10 15:51:25 (permalink)
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    Not knocking it but I can't think of anything more boring or pointless than making a conscious effort to do fcukall for 20 mins. Surely just sitting watching tele but not really taking an interest in it is meditating. Seems the same thing to me. 




    I used to think the same thing but it's more about gaining some control of what goes on in your mind.  This can apply to all kinds of situations.  Self doubt, worrying, being over busy and having a million things going round your head and not being able to focus on a task, jealous thoughts.
     
    As mentioned it's no magic bullet but it certainly helps
     
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/10 16:05:33 (permalink)
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    Not knocking it but I can't think of anything more boring or pointless than making a conscious effort to do fcukall for 20 mins. Surely just sitting watching tele but not really taking an interest in it is meditating. Seems the same thing to me. 


    I’m the same. I tried normal type meditating and it just wasn’t for me. Sitting still I find hard.

    I do a bit qigong and do jam jongs which is basically standing in a variety of really really uncomfortable position(earth, fire, air, ether and water) for quite a long time. You focus on your breathing and letting that uncomfortableness and lactic acid burning pain dissipate. It really is therapeutic.. when you start you think about the pain, but to make it bareabke you have to to focus on your breathing, if your mind wonders, you get the uncomfortableness back. Probably the only tjme I’ve ever not been able to think about anything else and just relax and breath.

    I also find a good way of meditating is to wake up before the sun rises and go for a walk on the coat. Not a single person in sight, just the noise of the sea and the gulsnand the sun trying to like through.. really is much better then sitting on a pillow staring at a wall!
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/10 17:23:04 (permalink)
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    What does it actually do for you though? Do you feel you have achieved something on completion? Does it make the rest of the day better or is it only good whilst you're doing it; like sex I suppose?

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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/10 18:31:49 (permalink)
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    Meditating for over 15 years, normally around hour'ish mark on a fairly daily basis.  Easiest way I find is once I wake up in the morning is to sit upright in bed before getting out or anything and just doing it then and there.  Although it ensures consistency, probably not the best way.  First thing I notice when I meditate is how damn unconscious I am
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/10 22:13:07 (permalink)
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    What does it actually do for you though? Do you feel you have achieved something on completion? Does it make the rest of the day better or is it only good whilst you're doing it; like sex I suppose?

    It’s the only time I can really get some peace from everything in my head. For me it’s constant, sometimes intrusive and causes a lot of anxiety. So having 10 minutes a couple times a day of a different focus it’s like a weight has been lifted.
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/11 05:26:34 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the replies.
     
    Heres one issue I have where I was hoping it would help, baring in mind ive only been doing 2 x 10 minutes daily for just over a week.
     
    Sleep. For some reason, sleep becomes more difficult in winter, I get down and stressed. Mind wont stop thinking negative about even small things that don't matter. I wake up for a piss around 3, when I go back to bed then off the brain goes erratically worrying about stuff that don't really matter. Not every night, but enough to piss me off, most nights. We all know how important a good nights sleep is.
     
    Anyways, and this is gona sound like bull**** coincidence. Wakes up last night, gets back in bed. I starts thinking and thinks "oh no, stop thinkin", so I starts concentrating just on my breathing, bad thoughts go away, next thing alarm is going off.  :)
     
    Lets hope I can continue and it wasn't fluky.
     
    Cheers
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/13 10:51:55 (permalink)
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    I've recently started vipassana meditation. I do it because the science is sound and it makes perfect sense. It teaches to you focus on the now, something that is very hard to do for many humans.
     
    Anyone who knows me will know that I'm always cautious of 'alternative' therapies and that I only follow science. This hasn't changed. They'll also know that I'm a bit of a stress head that's always busy. I have been getting a lot better at being less stressed and overly busy over the last 2 years even before I started meditating. I'm also meditating to help me recognise what's real in life and to focus and this is only going to be beneficial. Another issue I have had is to remain focused on one thing at a time and this isn't good. I've always been very good at multi-tasking, which has it's plus points, sure. But is it really beneficial to do this all the time? I've been asking myself the question 'maybe sometimes it's best not to multi-task and to focus 100% on one thing at a time; maybe I can be more productive?'
     
    If vipassana meditation can help me focus on the now; then this makes perfect sense. If I can't focus on my own breath for more than a few seconds, how can I expect to be able to make a success of what I do in life?
     
    This is not an alternative therapy; the physiology (yes, that's the correct word) actually makes perfect sense. I'm actually annoyed at myself for not doing this sooner and shunning it in exactly the same way as Airbourne Warrior did above (yep, that was me just a few months ago).
     
    I'm meditating for 6 mins twice per day. My mind still wonders, of course - and I'm sure it always will - but what I am getting better at is bringing it back to the now.
     
    Have I seen any benefits reflect in things I'm doing: maybe ... even, quite possibly. The reason that I'm not stating a firm 'yes' is that it's too early and I'm always a sceptic and I'm self-critical.
     
    What's the worse that can happen? It makes a stress head sit down and relax for 10-20 mins a day! Surely that can only be a good thing?
     
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/13 11:45:46 (permalink)
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    Good stuff James. I got into it to change my relationship with stress.

    I find this technique particularly good when I'm feeling stressed:
    https://www.psychologytod...-s-relaxation-response

    This book got me into a consistent mediation habit: 10% Happier: https://www.amazon.co.uk/...cp_apa_i_ErYoCbRQS54G5

    It's not a "how to" book. It's about a stressed, workaholic, skeptic news anchor who got into after having a panic attack live on air.
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/13 14:54:31 (permalink)
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    Meditating is good, it helps to direct your thoughts. It makes you aware of your immediate environment. It helps to increase awareness and reduces stress. Here are the main benefits.
    The benefits.
    It helps to reduce stress. Mental stress increases production of stress hormones.
    It controls anxiety- when you meditate, you become less anxious.
    It promotes emotional health-
    It lengthens concentration span. – When you meditate, it increases endurance and strength. This helps to improve the attention span.
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/13 15:14:32 (permalink)
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    Still not convinced. I can't see how sitting still and thinking of nothing for half an hour is beneficial. Must be some sort of placebo.

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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/13 16:19:08 (permalink)
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    Airborne Warrior
    Still not convinced. I can't see how sitting still and thinking of nothing for half an hour is beneficial. Must be some sort of placebo.




    This is a common misconception, certainly with Vipassana (Mindfulness) meditation. The goal isn't to have a blank mind devoid of thoughts. It's about being aware that you are thinking. The practice is to focus on an object such as the breath, and when your attention wanders off into thought (which it will do) to bring your focus of attention back to the breath.
     
    Eventually you realize that if you are able to observe your thoughts, then you can't be your thoughts. It's like the difference between standing on a bank and observing the flow of a river vs jumping in and becoming part of the river.
     
    I find that helpful as I can observe anxious thoughts about the future without becoming immersed in them, which can then lead to stress, or in the wort case a panic attack.
     
    Anyway, it isn't really something that you can appreciate on an intellectual level. I only got it once I had been practicing consistently for a while.
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/14 08:20:07 (permalink)
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    James
     
    I'm meditating for 6 mins twice per day. 




     
    Hi James, do you have a set routine for meditation?  I need to pin myself down and make it part of everyday life but I'm struggling to find the right/best time to do it.
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    Re: Do you meditate ? 2019/01/14 10:00:50 (permalink)
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    Do i believe in meditation, no not at all. But who cares, if you do, and you benefit from it, all`s well. 







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