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2015/01/03 17:55:16 (permalink)
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Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes?

I have, officially, given up.  Gave up a month or two back even with those who are still doing upright rows with elbows out in front, or doing partials (usually on multiple machines in same session).  I must have told about a dozen last year, and the next week, most of them went back to doing the same crap.
 
The way I see it, stupid people must want to come a cropper, because they do the same crap repeatedly, in the gym and in other areas of their lives, eventually they learn the hard way, yet make.  Don't get me wrong, I'm ALL for newbies trying out the different machines/exercises in one session, I remember the thrill and novelty of it all myself WAY back in the day.  But then you need to get serious - stupid people never do, and just take up frigging space.
 
About the only exception I'm going to make is to continue to keep one eye on the morons trying to barbell bench their bodyweight, bringing the bar down just an inch, for like 15 reps.   As much as part of me would be glad to see such stupidity removed from the human race with one snap of that neck, I have to concede that dumba$$ likely has a mum and dad and other family who would be heartbroken.
 
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/03 18:02:39 (permalink)
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If someone came up to me in the gym to critique my technique, they would have to look the part for me to even listen!

Too many people moaning about other people in their gyms recently. Go to your gym and do your own thing and leave, it's really simple.
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/03 18:14:46 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby *animal* 2015/01/03 18:15:56
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I have never corrected a strangers form etc without their prior consent as I am a not a twat. Well I at least try not to be most of the time lol
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/03 18:16:17 (permalink)
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If someone came up to me in the gym to critique my technique, they would have to look the part for me to even listen!



This.

Also as i dont look the part, i would never hive advice that isnt asked for.

Im reluctant to give advice to people who do ask because ive learnt that people arent actually asking for the answer to a question, they are asking you to validate what they are already doing, and if you dont, then whatever advice you have given will be ignored

  




 
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/03 18:19:06 (permalink)
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I tend not to now, unless it looks like they are going to really injure themselves.
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/03 18:26:57 (permalink)
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I used to but I've given up too.
Of the most frequent errors, one is people bending their legs to push the weight on the calf raise, therefore making it a leg press. They will undoubtably have been shown the correct method but they don't listen.
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/03 18:31:12 (permalink)
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If they look totally out of place. I normally say something like you happy with that?
and youll be suprosed how many say not really! dont get me wrong some just look at you like youve kicked there cat but some do say so.
 
However i know a 'personal trainer' and i use that words losely that had a girl dead lifting. It was both the sh*test technique and way to heavy. So i told her, he tried to reassure me with the words 'Bro im a PT'.
Then he changed her stance and dropped the weight...
Since then she's asked me a couple of times for pointers.

 
 
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/03 18:59:36 (permalink)
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No I don't.
 
I won't say I never do, there's a lad who's been up my place lately and he was learning DLs etc with the PT there. Next session with no PT I could see 1 or 2 issues creeping in as he had no coaching so I did interject with a couple of pointers for him...

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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/03 18:59:56 (permalink)
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I think it depends on the setup of the gym. If the place has staff that are supposed to go gym inductions, walkarounds and such, I would mention it to them so they could say something, given their position of authority. Failing that i'd ask someone who looks the part more than I do to do it. Probably wouldn't have the nerve to do it myself if honest.
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/03 19:15:33 (permalink)
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Nope none of my business...however I was asked what a standing leg curl machine was for the other day.
post edited by silent rep - 2015/01/03 20:42:21

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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/03 20:36:40 (permalink)
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IMO people that do it are obnoxious dicks.  I would never offer advice to a stranger unless asked.  Who the **** area you to interfere?   
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/03 20:38:03 (permalink)
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OP you better be on strict pressing Jay Cutler looking ****.
 
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/03 20:52:43 (permalink)
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I don't correct people unless they look as if they will injure themselves. I did correct someone who was very thin and looked about 18. He was doing squats and simulteneously turning his upper body 90 degrees to admire himself in the mirror.
I advised him to stand in front of the mirror and look himself in the eyes to keep his back straight.
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/03 21:06:00 (permalink)
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Depends really, Ive trained for long enough and trained others long enough to normally detect whether someone wants help or would be receptive to my advice/guidance. Sometimes Ill try to help othertimes not. Whether I look the part or not I dont know but when Ive given advice when I felt it was needed most have been grateful and taken it on board.

I would never try to advise an "advanced" trainer or someone who I judged knew what they were doing as partials and cheat reps have their place for example.
post edited by Dav - 2015/01/03 21:07:10
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/03 21:06:51 (permalink)
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Happens all time in my gym
Lat pull down where they leaning right back almost sat on floor.....!!!!!
 
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/04 00:24:18 (permalink)
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Around the squat racks I will normally chat to who ever is lifting next to me or sharing equipment. Most of the time is spent resting so might as well talk. I'll give technical pointers where appropriate and they are always thankful.

I would never just approach someone without prior introduction and tell them what to do though unless it looked terrible.

I don't bother away from the squat racks though. If you want to do half ROM reps or cheat curls then fair enough. They still 'work' they just look stupid.
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/04 00:44:04 (permalink)
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There's a guy in my gym that looks like he doesn't train (like me tbf) he stands and curls 30kg DBs but he's literally just swinging them. I wouldn't say anything, not just cause it makes me laugh, but because there is no way in hell he doesn't know that he's doing it wrong lol

  




 
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/04 00:56:47 (permalink)
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Recently I've approached three different people to tell them not to load a barbell whilst it's resting on a bench. My gym has gone to the effort of buying some nice, shiney, new barbells which aren't cheap and I see people that don't know any better loading them up for heavy rows or shrugs whilst balancing them on a bench. The outcome is a bent bar. I'm polite about it and I like to think I'm just giving them a little knowledge. So far nobody has been arsey about it.

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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/04 00:58:37 (permalink)
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Absolutely never.
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Re: Do you still correct stranger newbies when they make training mistakes? 2015/01/04 01:07:54 (permalink)
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Recently I've approached three different people to tell them not to load a barbell whilst it's resting on a bench. My gym has gone to the effort of buying some nice, shiney, new barbells which aren't cheap and I see people that don't know any better loading them up for heavy rows or shrugs whilst balancing them on a bench. The outcome is a bent bar. I'm polite about it and I like to think I'm just giving them a little knowledge. So far nobody has been arsey about it.


Yeah I hate that sh.it! They get told straight away. You pay to use the gym and so they are basically damaging your's and everyone else's property.

I'm back to my London gym now and it's full of bent bars! No!

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