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Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs?

I'm carb cycling atm. Read one of the carb cycling articles here and am sticking pretty close to it.

Basically in a week, I have 2 days with no carbs, 3 days low carbs, 1 day high carbs and 1 cheat day (I slipped that in to keep me sane).

Anyway, I'm finding it easier to get through no carb days compared to low carbs. Any reasons for this? Anyone else experience this?
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/09 21:40:48 (permalink)
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    Eating carbs makes you crave more, so abstaining completely is easier IMO. Plus you'll be replacing the carb calories with protein and fat which are both more satiating
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/09 21:49:00 (permalink)
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    Cheers kaneda,how would you recommend carb cycling with no low carb days then?
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/09 21:49:00 (permalink)
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    Cheers kaneda,how would you recommend carb cycling with no low carb days then?
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    Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/09 22:04:50 (permalink)
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    Well, you could do a CKD, cut carbs during the week then carb up each weekend?

    Tbh though I'm not the best person I comment really, I just manage my calories and don't worry too much about macros. Low carb affects my training too much so I'm pretty high carb all the time
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/09 22:33:57 (permalink)
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    I've found that i can't sustain no carbs as choice becomes far too limited.
    Low carbs Im ok with, weekends im quite relaxed and just don't over do anything but eat as i fancy.
    Its working for me.

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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/10 12:47:48 (permalink)
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    When I dieted last year with Dazc I ended up on CKD, I either wanted lots of carbs in my diet, or none; otherwise I was cranky and sooooo lethargic!!
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/10 13:05:00 (permalink)
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    CKD is worth a look but it's really got to work for you and your training. I personally love it.
     
    Carb cycling is all well and good but will cause some carb cravings particularly the 'I want a few more' after eating carbs. Also for me it depends on the carbs, some sweet ****ty carbs post workout make me crave them all day, but rice, white potato I seem to eat them and forget. 
     
    CKD is my favourite way of dieting though, protein and fat keeps you full and the food enjoyable and monster carb up's scratch that carb itch (though monday I am craving like a mother trucker)
     
    I am currently eating carbs everyday whilst cutting just to see what it's like. Results wise I am not as tight as keto but pictures look pretty similar, adherence wise it's much harder.
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/10 13:07:49 (permalink)
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    ive moved almost all my carb intake to post work out. i've reduced calories slightly as im on a cut which makes it hard enough as it is, so getting some carbs in the evening is a really boost.
     
    i tried the DP keto diet for 2 weeks but found my energy levels for working out were too low, especially when the intensity was high or cardio. 
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/10 16:04:12 (permalink)
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    I've never really understood DP keto diet, I understand it's worked for everyone but looking at it initially the carbs look to high to truly be ketogenic. Might be wrong only skirted over it a while ago and thought this
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/10 16:22:15 (permalink)
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    depends on body fat level  when your really lean no carbs doesn't feel god at all , when you've got plenty of bodyfat to use for energy then it doesn't feel as bad , I definatley keep more muscle keeping carbs in there , never really drop below 100-150 grams per day
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/11 09:55:33 (permalink)
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    I, like walkie prefer low carb during the week (for 6 days) and then a carb up day where i can eat a mixture of carbs and fit in a cheat meal also. It worked great for me over the summer.

    been trying carb cycling since the start of the shapeup and i find it too hard to just have some carbs on medium day, im left craving them either a slice of bread or more rice.

    from last week i went back to low carb and the week went really well. no cravings, just looking forward to a high carb day on saturday where i can pig out a little and have a monster back and bi session.

    one thing i would say is reverse diet out of a low carb after you've followed it for a long time. i find i put on a huge amount of water and fat really quickly if i dont introduce carbs back into my diet slowly.
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/11 10:31:39 (permalink)
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    Maybe it's like an alco having just one drink lol.
    I just stick to something like carbs once a day. But a good carb feed but just once a day. Usually in the evening so energy is fine for the early morning workout. I don't think zero carbs is necessary for fat loss. Too extreme for me.
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/11 12:03:33 (permalink)
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    On the days you have designated as low carb why not hold the carbs back until your last meal?  That way it should be no more difficult than your no carb days.  Doing something similar and not finding it too hard to be honest.
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/11 12:08:08 (permalink)
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    yes, find no carbs much easier
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/11 20:36:14 (permalink)
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    Yeh I usually train in the evenings and get some carbs in me during the day to make sure ive got energy for the gym session. But I am thinking of just dropping low carbs and maybe doing no carbs 2 days, then high carbs now because low carbs is just really hard to get through...
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/11 21:02:06 (permalink)
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    johnny bravo
    I've found that i can't sustain no carbs as choice becomes far too limited.
    Low carbs Im ok with, weekends im quite relaxed and just don't over do anything but eat as i fancy.
    Its working for me.

    flick161
    When I dieted last year with Dazc I ended up on CKD, I either wanted lots of carbs in my diet, or none; otherwise I was cranky and sooooo lethargic!!





    Agree with all this, low carb is ok for me but I find it interferes with normal life too much (like eating out, eating with family, going out etc etc) which makes it unsustainable for me personally. I was also an all or nothing guy, I either religiously stuck to less than 50g a day or ate 300-400g, having a few more than say 100g just made me want to eat more.
     
    Even when I'm dieting down now I tend to just include carbs in my diet and eat moderate carbs (like 200-250g a day) but make sure they're from decent sources (ie- Brown rice, vegetables, oats etc)
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/12 10:39:39 (permalink)
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    So, people are still on the no/low carb bandwagon then? If you want to lose bodyfat, keep protein high and create a calorie deficit. The amount of carbs you eat will make little difference to bodycomp (unless you're getting diced for the stage), except that if you DO eat carbs you'll have energy for training, energy to think, and the muscle sparing benefits of carbohydrates.
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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/12 10:43:18 (permalink)
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    So, people are still on the no/low carb bandwagon then? If you want to lose bodyfat, keep protein high and create a calorie deficit. The amount of carbs you eat will make little difference to bodycomp (unless you're getting diced for the stage), except that if you DO eat carbs you'll have energy for training, energy to think, and the muscle sparing benefits of carbohydrates.


    Does fat not offer this benefit then?

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    Re: Does anyone else find doing low carbs is harder then doing no carbs? 2014/10/12 12:50:43 (permalink)
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    So, people are still on the no/low carb bandwagon then? If you want to lose bodyfat, keep protein high and create a calorie deficit. The amount of carbs you eat will make little difference to bodycomp (unless you're getting diced for the stage), except that if you DO eat carbs you'll have energy for training, energy to think, and the muscle sparing benefits of carbohydrates.


    Does fat not offer this benefit then?



    Well it does, and you don't get the high/low blood sugar levels but the body will more readily and more easily use carbohydrates for fuel.
     
    The problem with low carb (imho) is that you miss out on the insulin benefits. I know most low carb advocates will say insulin is a bad thing but I beg to differ. Glycogen and Insulin are a tool to be used for gaining/keeping muscle mass.
     
    I see no reason what so ever for somebody without severe insulin resistance and who is active to use low carb. I can see why somebody obese or sedentary could hugely benefit from low carb but for an athlete or somebody who trains hard on a regular basis its usually not required. 
     
    That said horses for courses and some find it works better for them and also that its easier to stick to so in this case I say go for it.
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