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2015/02/20 08:06:55 (permalink)
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Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development

He insinuated that he didn't  take much, that the proposed cycles he was supposed to be on that are listed in various forums were bull**** and half the stuff listed he didn't even know what it meant.......reckons in the early 90's most BB'S were on no more than 1gm p/week of Test as "high amount of test were not really the done thing back then" (wtf?), also said that the pro's he knew did not really discuss their cycles?? He lived with Flex Wheeler for a bit, you mean to tell me that they didn't discuss cycling?? Be interested to hear the boards opinion on this!
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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/20 08:46:34 (permalink)
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No idea ref discussions but I'd wager he's spot on regarding dosages..I'm of the opinion that these top level guys are very gifted in the genetics dep't and don't need mega doses in order to be what they are, and along with which I think have a lot more common sense than the average reccy bodybuilder..

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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/20 08:51:03 (permalink)
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You will never know what these guy's did. Only them and maybe the odd friend as they would have kept it top secret. I don't even tell mates what i use lol.

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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/20 11:28:54 (permalink)
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That rings true to me, I have read a lot of his articles and posts and watched just about all the interviews he has done.
He is very open about his use of AAS  and other supplements, bearing in mind that he has a responsibility not to over hype them and not encourage young guys to think that they can get to look like him simply by using masses of AAS. 
He has nothing to lose by being open and honest nowadays. 
As for discussing AAS use with other BBers? Well no one is going to give competitors the advantage of knowing exactly what one is using at the time of competing and lose any potential advantage.  
The only thing that he is reticent of discussing is his use of insulin which I believe to be understandable considering the potential dangers that it presents.  

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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/20 21:12:27 (permalink)
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Listen to Marc he speak the truth 
 

 
 

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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/20 21:20:19 (permalink)
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Why not believe it, 90% of it is genetics anyhow, so not much need to lie, try 500mg of test, try 1000, try 1500 I'd say the only extra effects you'll get from higher doses will be more side effects.

So I'd say it's totally believable.

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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/20 21:37:43 (permalink)
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I believe that they probably did not go over a gram on test but that not all they were using.  A simple test/deca/dbol run would still probably put it up to 2.5 Gram a week, which is realistic IMO.
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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/20 22:48:06 (permalink)
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So what was making Dorian bloated following his first Olympia win? He must of been using something in excess to get a massive bloated gut? And what caused Colemans improvement to win his first Olympia?It wasn't his diet as he would if had that down to a pat YEARS before 98....
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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/21 06:19:15 (permalink)
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What he was on we will never know. But to get like this and win 6 Mr Olympia`s you would be very naive to think he done it on a gram of test only.








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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/21 09:29:14 (permalink)
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What he was on we will never know. But to get like this and win 6 Mr Olympia`s you would be very naive to think he done it on a gram of test only.



My thoughts exactly...
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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/21 10:57:59 (permalink)
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So what was making Dorian bloated following his first Olympia win? He must of been using something in excess to get a massive bloated gut? And what caused Colemans improvement to win his first Olympia?It wasn't his diet as he would if had that down to a pat YEARS before 98....


Did he have a massively bloated gut? 

Coleman was huge when he wasn`t doing things right he was just training because he liked doing it.
It took others to point out to him that he could compete and others helped him sort his diet and training out. 
Of all the bbers Coleman is one of the most naturally genetically gifted individuals that have come onto the scene.
Sure he used/uses what ever he can to gain and cut, but the genetics are there to start with.
This is what really sickened other competitors, it didnt matter how many resources they put in , he would still blow them away on stage. 
If your point is that these guys were/are being deceitful then I believe that is being a bit naive (with respect)
No one is going to give away all their secrets and hard earned  knowledge to other competitors. 

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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/21 11:03:29 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Barbarian999 2015/02/21 11:50:07
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Genetically gifted isn't just ability to gain muscle, it is also the ability to withstand extremely high doses with minimal sides.
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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/21 11:12:26 (permalink)
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Genetically gifted isn't just ability to gain muscle, it is also the ability to withstand extremely high doses with minimal sides.


Agreed 

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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/21 11:49:47 (permalink)
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So what was making Dorian bloated following his first Olympia win? He must of been using something in excess to get a massive bloated gut? And what caused Colemans improvement to win his first Olympia?It wasn't his diet as he would if had that down to a pat YEARS before 98....


Did he have a massively bloated gut? 

Coleman was huge when he wasn`t doing things right he was just training because he liked doing it.
It took others to point out to him that he could compete and others helped him sort his diet and training out. 
Of all the bbers Coleman is one of the most naturally genetically gifted individuals that have come onto the scene.
Sure he used/uses what ever he can to gain and cut, but the genetics are there to start with.
This is what really sickened other competitors, it didnt matter how many resources they put in , he would still blow them away on stage. 
If your point is that these guys were/are being deceitful then I believe that is being a bit naive (with respect)
No one is going to give away all their secrets and hard earned  knowledge to other competitors. 


Are you sure I'm the naive one?
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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/21 12:08:17 (permalink)
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Referring to your comments in your first post then I would suggest that you are a bit .
Thinking that BBers should divulge all their secrets to the world ? then yes. 
And your implication that Dorian is dishonest ?  then most definitely .
This is one roundabout that I am leaving 

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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/21 14:11:29 (permalink)
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Wasn't Dorian said to be on like 300mg of anavar back in his day?
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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/21 14:35:16 (permalink)
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Still think a lot of it is put out by your average gym goer who's doing a gram + a week and seeing little to nothing so to appease this believes your Dorians, Khans and Heaths of the world are doing trice what he is.

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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/21 16:18:19 (permalink)
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I would wager the elite bb's are all genetically gifted who absolutely nail their training and diet to suit, along with taking very large doses of PED's.
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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/21 16:21:32 (permalink)
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That certainly won't apply to all, some will take silly doses, some not so.

Believe what you have to.

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Re: Dorians recent interview on steroids in Muscular Development 2015/02/21 16:26:36 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby *animal* 2015/02/21 18:19:59
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Phil Heath by any chance?
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