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2006/07/07 18:46:17 (permalink)

Drag Curls anyone??

I was reading an article in Musclemag about the 12 best excercises for getting big, and the dude reckons Drag Curls are tops for bi's. Anyone done them and if so how do you rate them. They look like torture to me.

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    big_mal
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/07 18:54:46 (permalink)
    never tried them but i'm surprised to see an isolation arm exercise in a list of "best exercises for getting big".
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/07 18:59:47 (permalink)
    a.k.a reverse/ overhand bicep curls

    12 best exercises for getting big!? Hardly, I would go for;

    Deadlifts
    Squats
    leg press
    Bent over row
    Chins
    Shoulderpress
    Dips
    Benchpress
    Narrowgrip benchpress
    Decline benchpress
    SLDL

    Have I missed any out



    post edited by Cheshire Cat - 2006/07/07 19:59:16
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/07 19:25:22 (permalink)
    The article's called "Best Growth Excercises EVER!" by a guy called Greg Zulak. His rouine includes:


    • Squats
    • Chins
    • Dips
    • Inline Bench
    • Body Drag Curls
    • 45 Degree Leg Press
    • Reverse Crunches
    • Barbell Shrugs
    • Seated Dumbell Press
    • Standing Calf Raises
    • Hyperextensions
    • Leg Curls


    He also goes on to give two example routines, a 2 on/1 off split and a 3 on/1 off splt. I was a bit sceptical which is why I posted here. Nothing beats the words of wisdom found on MT.
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/07 19:26:58 (permalink)
    i call em reverse curls they work the forearms really good

    start weight 8st 4lbs 1/09/06
    current weight 8st 13lbs
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/07 19:51:26 (permalink)
    No, they're not curls at all. You don't arc your arms like you would with curls, you drag the barbell up your body keeping contact at all times. In the mag he demonstrates them with an underhand grip, not the overhand one shown on bodybuilding.com Apparently they leave your bicep feeling like they've just been raped.
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/07 19:51:38 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Ronin316

    The article's called "Best Growth Excercises EVER!" by a guy called Greg Zulak. His rouine includes:


    • Squats
    • Chins
    • Dips
    • Inline Bench
    • Body Drag Curls
    • 45 Degree Leg Press
    • Reverse Crunches
    • Barbell Shrugs
    • Seated Dumbell Press
    • Standing Calf Raises
    • Hyperextensions
    • Leg Curls


    He also goes on to give two example routines, a 2 on/1 off split and a 3 on/1 off splt. I was a bit sceptical which is why I posted here. Nothing beats the words of wisdom found on MT.


    Has he not heard of rows and deadlifts?
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/07 19:53:44 (permalink)
    Yeah I'm not convinced by his overall routine but I was inrigued by the drag curl as 'd never seen it before. Might give it a go tonight.
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/07 19:54:37 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Ronin316

    No, they're not curls at all. You don't arc your arms like you would with curls, you drag the barbell up your body keeping contact at all times. In the mag he demonstrates them with an underhand grip, not the overhand one shown on bodybuilding.com Apparently they leave your bicep feeling like they've just been raped.


    I get ya, a mix between a overhand curl and an upright row
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/07 20:05:57 (permalink)
    Yeah, I'd imagine you'd have to pay close attention to form or it'll turn into anupright row before you know it.
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/07 20:21:06 (permalink)
    Drag curls are good ones, they were made by Vince Gironda, one of Gironda's talents was an ability to produce exercises which were great for isolating that particular area. Trivia- Preacher curls were also made by Gironda
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/08 00:37:56 (permalink)
    interesting move, can see why they say to keep check on form otherwise its almost a row.

    :o
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/08 00:57:18 (permalink)
    I did Drag Curls tonight for the first time (in place of barbell curls) and really like them. After my first set started feeling pumped. They also worked my forearms and to an extent my shoulders (maybe I wasn't doing them 100% right). Will def keep them in for a while. I did 3 sets of 8 reps. Started with 10kg to get a feel for them then bumped up to 15kg and last set 20kg. I just couldn't manage that 8th rep at 20kg. I tried three times to do the bugger but failed

    Next time I'm starting at 20kg and will not fail!!!
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/08 17:55:08 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: DTH

    http://www.seriousaboutfitness.com/detail/detail_20040301.htm

    http://www.jsfitness.com/biceps.html


    In contrast, when the bar is dragged up the body, the front deltoids no longer contract to help lift the weight. By dragging the barbell up the body, the elbows now shift backward instead of forward, and the biceps are doing all the work. The difference isn’t subtle.

    With the biceps better isolated they can actually be worked more effectively, but there’s one more added benefit of doing the drag curl: the contraction at the top is better


    I can't see how the biceps is better isolated during a drag curl then a normal bicep curl? Sure you have more of a continual tension as you are fighting gravity through more of the movement, but the bicep cuirl if done correctly only really requires the muscles that felx the arm. In contrast the drag curl must involve some rear delt/ trap/ back muscles as with an upright row, no?
    post edited by Cheshire Cat - 2006/07/08 17:56:18
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/08 18:22:50 (permalink)
    I used to do these when I was starting out... to be totaly honest at the time I thought they were great but put too much pressure on my wrists so I scrapped them. Tried introducing them back into my routine but the pain comes back, but yeah I'd say deffo keep them if you're seeing improvements and feeling the pump. Trial and error
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/08 18:27:09 (permalink)
    ive done these, really hammer your biceps, there be sore for days!

    very deceiving how little weight you need for these
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    RE: Drag Curls anyone?? 2006/07/12 01:23:02 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Cheshire Cat

    I can't see how the biceps is better isolated during a drag curl then a normal bicep curl? Sure you have more of a continual tension as you are fighting gravity through more of the movement, but the bicep cuirl if done correctly only really requires the muscles that felx the arm. In contrast the drag curl must involve some rear delt/ trap/ back muscles as with an upright row, no?


    I think the biggest plus to the Drag Curl is that is difficult to cheat on. You can't swing your elbows out or put your back in to it. You have to use your biceps to drag it up. Yes there is pressure on your delts and forearms (my forearms really burned after doing this) but most of the work is done by the biceps making it a good clean exercise. That's just my opinion though
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