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2011/04/07 11:29:57 (permalink)
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Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log

Firstly, let me start by thanking  Dean and Dragon Nutrition for providing me with their products for the purposes of logging them in conjunction with my training and diet.
 
The products I received were:
Pro-Ergo
Pro-Tren
Pro-ATD
 
The plan is to run them for 33 days and keep my progress whilst on them logged.
 
My current basic statistics are (will provide more measurements soon):
Age: 22
Height: 5ft 6
Weight: 70kg
 
I currently train 5 times a week, each gym day is split into morning cardio and evening weight training. I will still do a minimum of 20 minutes cardio on my 'off' days.
 
I am expecting to put on some good, lean mass whilst maintaining a relatively low BF%. Tren is recommended for cutting whilst Ergo is considered relatively 'dry', meaning I wont, hopefully, hold too much water.
 
My diet has been adjusted to fall in line with my goals for this cycle, calories have been bumped up along with protein and carb intake. A day's meal plan for me currently looks as follows:
 
Key: ON = Optimum Nutrition
 
Morning:
Meal 1 Pre-workout cardio: ON Fish Oil, ON Hydro Whey (with water), Pro-biotic drink, ON ZMA
 
Meal 2 Post-workout cardio: 1 cup Greek yoghurt with Grape-Nut cereal (sprinkled on top), 4 slices of wholemeal bread, 80-100g sliced grilled chicken or 1 cup gluten free oats with ON chocolate whey mixed in.
 
Morning - Midday:
Meal 3 Morning snack: 80g long grain or brown rice, cooked meat, low sugar sauce. Pear. Black Cherry low fat and low sugar yoghurt.
 
Meal 4 Lunch: Salmon fillet, pasta, salad, low sugar and fat dressing.
 
Evening - Bed
Meal 5 Pre-workout weights: ON Hydro Whey (with water) with half a cup of oats. ON Amino Energy (2-4 scoops).
 
Meal 6 Post-Workout weights: ON After Max (carb based shake with water).
 
Meal 7 Dinner: Whole wheat noodles or brown rice with a cooked meat protein source (usually chicken or venison). Rivita mini crisps.
 
Meal 8 Before Bed: Cottage cheese. Tablespoon of all natural, crunchy, peanut butter. ON Casein shake with skimmed milk.


post edited by ryzo - 2011/04/07 11:54:39
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 12:03:50 (permalink)
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    The cycle itself is as follows:
    Pro-Tren, 150mg ED.
    Pro-Ergo, 30mg ED.
    Pro-ATD as PCT.
    Cycle Length: 33 days.
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 12:10:43 (permalink)
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    Good stuff, mate. I'll keep an eye on this thread.
    I'm 5 days into my Pro-SD/Pro-Tren stack, and will post an update in my own thread over in the Pro-Hormone section within the next few days.
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 12:17:41 (permalink)
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    Subbed.
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 12:17:57 (permalink)
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    The cycle itself started Monday 4th April, logging itself began today to allow some time for the PHs to kick in.
     
    Immediate Effects:
    Strength - Immediately noticed an increase in strength after day 1. Placebo or PH? Unsure, but there is a definite increase.
    For those who aren't aware, it's been a while since I've touched any pro-hormones or ran any cycles and I can safely say I seem to be responding well to these compounds already. Lifts are becoming easier and increasing steadily (5-10kg on average). Muscle pumps however are becoming uncomfortable (especially shoulders and lower back) and did experience cramp in legs (not sure this is down to PH as it is still early days). Taking Taurine and Aminos to help counteract.
     
    Appearance - Still looking dry. Not holding too much water. Using the standing sunbed every 1.5 weeks to amplify the effect.
     
    Gradual Effects:
    Appetite - Gradually increasing. Meals that sometimes required force feeding are now eaten, eagerly. Using wholegrain rice cakes or ON shakes to keep me going throughout the day.
     
    Sides:
    None (potentially) as of yet. Perspiring more, however, more down to the intensity of my current workouts. Uncomfortable muscle pumps and cramp may not necessarily be down to PH use. Will keep an eye on this.
     
    Weigh in:
    Over the week my weight has fluctuated both up and down in 2-3 kgs either way, this is normal for me. Morning weigh-in is around 67-68kg and evening can be around 72-73kg. Whether this is down to my sodium levels from the food I'm eating, or just how my body responds to supplements, I'm unsure - but so far, no real change.

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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 12:18:46 (permalink)
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    Thanks guys :D
     
    Will keep my eye out on yours Dylan and thanks for subbing Enfant.
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 13:10:22 (permalink)
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    What your current 1RM on lifts, will you try beating these depending on how the cycle goes?
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 13:14:42 (permalink)
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    shane278

    What your current 1RM on lifts, will you try beating these depending on how the cycle goes?

     
    I will certainly be keeping an eye on lifts and increases. Strength has been the first thing that has hit me so far, quite drastically actually.
     
    When off season, I bench around 200kg for 1 rep.
    Squatting off season is 260kg for 1 rep.
    Dead lift I try avoid due to lower back injury but I usually can hit around the 200-220kg mark.
     
    I'm currently tightening up and regard myself as being on a lean cut so strength and lifts have lowered. I want to avoid injury also, so, currently I'm lifting about 70-80% of the above.
    post edited by ryzo - 2011/04/07 13:19:11
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 13:44:18 (permalink)
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    See the diet - any idea of calories etc?
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 13:51:29 (permalink)
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    Interesting journal
     
    Thats some crazy lifts for your age 
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 14:00:49 (permalink)
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    ryzo

    shane278

    What your current 1RM on lifts, will you try beating these depending on how the cycle goes?


    I will certainly be keeping an eye on lifts and increases. Strength has been the first thing that has hit me so far, quite drastically actually.

    When off season, I bench around 200kg for 1 rep.
    Squatting off season is 260kg for 1 rep.
    Dead lift I try avoid due to lower back injury but I usually can hit around the 200-220kg mark.

    I'm currently tightening up and regard myself as being on a lean cut so strength and lifts have lowered. I want to avoid injury also, so, currently I'm lifting about 70-80% of the above.


      and your 70kg? wow!
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 14:01:46 (permalink)
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    Benching 200kg with bodyweight at 70kg, sweet jesus what hope do the rest of us have!
    Good luck with it, should be interesting.
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 14:04:59 (permalink)
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    Interesting, ZMA in the morning?
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 14:10:50 (permalink)
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    Off season I go up to around 105kg on the scales, however, as I'm cutting I'm much leaner as mentioned. In fact id go as far as to say I'm the leanest I've ever been, this is why I'm struggling with some of my 1RM lifts.
     
    I've always considered going into power lifting as my training has always been heavy and very brute force. I did have some videos somewhere of my lifts, but I can't find them. It's crazy to think I struggled with just the bar when I first started training....mental!
     
    Thanks guys.
     
    As for the ZMA, I've never taken it as a sleep aid (doesn't seem to do much for me), however, I have a bottle of it that I want to use so I work it in with my other supps in the morning - I take it for its other beneficial properties, although, I don't think any of them have been scientifically proven? (Possibly disproved?) Would seem a shame to waste them though, and it's just part of my daily routine - my training follows a strict routine and sometimes I don't like change or going out of my comfort zone (except at the gym ;P)
    post edited by ryzo - 2011/04/07 14:19:45
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 14:15:20 (permalink)
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    How many cycles have you run in the past if you dont mind me asking. Have you only used PH's?
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 14:17:40 (permalink)
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    Macro wise for my diet is on average:
     
    Calories: Just under the 3k mark. Some days vary depending on appetite. Additional cals usually come carbs.
     
    Protein: I keep my protein high, beneficial or not. I usually hit the 350-400g mark, a day. Currently I'm hitting around 300g and working my way up with additional meat based protein sources, or perhaps an extra scoop or two of whey.
     
    Carbs: Around the 350g mark. I keep my carbs high as I tend to do a lot of cardio and otherwise I feel extremely sluggish and lethargic. It's always worked for me. I try keep those nasty simple carb cravings at bay (except if I'm having a treat here or there).
     
    Fats: 70g-80g of fat as an estimate, I'd imagine depending on diet variations (different meat, carb source) this could shift, but I try stay consistent. I try get my omegas from supps and oily fish like Salmon. Sometimes I'll add a tiny bit of extra virgin olive oil to my protein shakes.
     
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/07 14:22:30 (permalink)
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    ALHADO

    How many cycles have you run in the past if you dont mind me asking. Have you only used PH's?

     
    Various cycles in the past, however, few PH based cycles. I have ran a few SD and Epi cycles, both had good results and were almost my entry into bodybuilding enhancers.
     
    I've ran about 4 - 5 other serious cycles, however, it had been 5 months as of this week that I had ran any cycles; I wanted to give my body a length time to recover, repair and heal (detox, pretty much).
     
    The majority of my cycles have not been PH based.
    post edited by ryzo - 2011/04/07 14:24:12
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/11 12:10:44 (permalink)
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    Updated - 11th April
     
    Things have been progressing with the cycle nicely. Cycle dose has remained constant, however, due to an increased appetite my carbs have slightly upped - I've been getting some more complex carbs in my diet to keep me full, sometimes I'll chuck an extra half cup of oats in somewhere or perhaps include 2 or 3 slices of wholemeal bread and rice cakes to keep me satisfied. I take this as a sign my body is working harder and needs more fuel for the machine.
     
    Weight is still fluctuating, however, it's remaining on the upper portion more constantly (potential water weight?). As of this morning I weighed in at 72kg.
     
    Appearance wise I am starting to fill out more, although, nothing major. I've noticed my triceps and biceps are certainly looking a lot fuller during workouts.
     
    I'm STILL noticing my strength on the increase. Weight increase on exercises have been consistent in 5-10kg increments. I'm starting to remember and feel what kind of weight I used to be chucking around last year, I wont lie, it feels damn good =P. It takes a lot longer for me to fatigue too, I noticed this especially on chest. Usually, cable work (usually mid-workout) is a nightmare because my chest is so sore, however, now I have more energy and strength to power on through my sets.
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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/11 18:03:31 (permalink)
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    good stuff mate,seems to have kicked in quick which is what i expected with these compounds.
     
    glad its going well for you!

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    Re:Dragon Nutrition - Advanced Cycle Log 2011/04/17 20:58:11 (permalink)
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    any updates mate?!!

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