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2014/11/12 20:00:11 (permalink)
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Early morning training

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Just starting back into training after a long lay off, I train first thing in the morning around 6am. This morning I did a cardio session on empty and got very dizzy! Was thinking of having a shake, maybe protein/maltodextrin about 15-30 mins prior to fuel the session - would appreciate your thoughts / recommendations?
 


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Re: Early morning training 2014/11/12 20:12:02 (permalink)
Your cardio session was probably to strenuous, cardio on empty (after a nights sleep) should be done at a steady pace at no more than 60-65 heart beats per minute.
 
When i do this i can still talk and carry out a conversation while jogging without gasping for air.
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Re: Early morning training 2014/11/12 20:25:21 (permalink)
I prefer a tablespoon of coconut oil if doing any pre food cv. 
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Re: Early morning training 2014/11/12 20:26:25 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby The_Lone_Wolf 2014/11/13 08:54:12
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Few suggestions already in this thread.

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Re: Early morning training 2014/11/13 03:40:36 (permalink)
doesn't it defeat the purpose of early morning cardio to take a hit of carbs beforehand?
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Re: Early morning training 2014/11/13 07:39:26 (permalink)
Given your long lay off you probably need a bit of time until your body gets accustomed to the activity level.
Shouldn't be much of a problem in a while. Maybe ease back a little on the intensity in the meantime.
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Re: Early morning training 2014/11/13 10:10:01 (permalink)
From personal experience I find that early morning cardio is comfortable on just a shake, making sure you warm up adequately before turning up the tempo.
 
I wouldn't go adding extra carbs to your shake unless you're doing a long session, wanting to do weights after your cardio or your training more for general fitness rather than fatloss etc.  If you're training either of the latter two (weights or general fitness) then you might feel better adding a banana and/or apple to your pre-training snack... not too heavy to bloat you and light on the calories but enough to give you sustenance to see out a good session.
 

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Re: Early morning training 2014/11/13 10:15:41 (permalink)
If you have the time eat, or eat well the night before, then have some bcaas glutamine etc before hand.

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Re: Early morning training 2014/11/16 23:01:21 (permalink)
Thanks for the replies.

In regards to the responses regarding heart rate and SSCV, yes aware of this but not training for this purpose, training at this time of the day purely because I don't have time any other!

I will reduce the exertion and see how it goes!


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Re: Early morning training 2014/11/16 23:34:27 (permalink)
you mentioned you just started it back up, whenever i change any variable in training time/intesity/volume there is a transitional adjustment phase, that added with some calories before hand should solve the problem.
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Re: Early morning training 2014/11/17 11:46:04 (permalink)
If your doing cardio in the morning, there is no real point in taking a shake beforehand, your body won't be using the energy from those calories for maybe an hour or so. Although it may interfere with your workout sloshing around in your gut.
Do your cardio fasted, at a low to medium pace ie a walking pace, slow jog, gentle cycle etc. Don't go doing hiit, running, sprints or cross training etc.
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Re: Early morning training 2014/11/18 09:18:10 (permalink)
I think you need to clarify 'cardio'...
 
Slow/ low intensity/ walking pace/ etc, is not cardio.  Cardio is cardiovascular training, so running, sprints, HIIT, etc.  I would not do this in a fasted state.  The goal of this sort of training is to improve your aerobic capacity.  Going into this in a fasted state is a recipe for catabolism.
 
Fat burning sessions are slow, low intensity exercise which will vary from individuals depending on their aerobic capacity (so could be a brisk walk for some, or a jog for others).  You should go into these fasted for maximum effect, and should certainly not get to the point that you feel dizzy.
 
So, depends on morning session.  Becoming dizzy sounds like your do aerobic cardio on empty...

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Re: Early morning training 2014/11/25 13:07:42 (permalink)
I thought slow cardio on an empty stomach was debunked as a myth a few years ago?
 
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Re: Early morning training 2014/11/25 17:58:06 (permalink)
^^^ No juries still out on this. There was study debunking fasted cardio:
http://suppversity.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/new-fasted-cardio-study-falsifies-myth.html
 
But it is not conclusive and weighed against  a stack of informed anecdotal evidence it doesn't stand up. 

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Re: Early morning training 2014/11/25 18:00:58 (permalink)
I lost a lot of fat by doing a 9 mile walk first thing in morning fasted, sometimes with a Stimulant, sometimes without.
Again not conclusive but I will continue to do this myself.

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Re: Early morning training 2014/12/02 21:19:32 (permalink)
Hi Griff, good to see you're still training!
 
I always do my cardio fasted - it does take getting used to though. Most people are never really truly fasted - you'd have to be low carb for some days / on keto to have depleted several hundred grams of stored glycogen. Whether being fasted or not increases fat loss is still debated. The most important factor is to fit it in part of the day thats more sustainable for yourself. 
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