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2003/08/31 16:46:52 (permalink)

Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view

Hi everyone,

I have been lurking here for a while (as one does initially ~ LOL) and have had a million questions answered, just by doing search after search. I have to be honest, the questions I wanted answers to were all about AAS and 'other' supplements. I was reading the sticky on the men's board on an E/C/A stack and altho it was very informative, I felt that it was 'slightly' biased towards men with regard to dosages etc., so I thought I'd post my own experiences with it, just in case any other first time ladies may be tempted to try it ~ one of the Mod's suggested I posted it here too ~ this is it...

This is a really good thread, but the downside is that dosages etc. are geared for males and we all know that what works for man, doesn't necessarily work the same way for a female.

There must be loads of ladies that search this board, looking for information on various 'supplements', but are perhaps a little afraid to post because it may make them look naive and inexperienced, or doubtful of trying the 'supplement' out simply because the dosages are geared for men.

I thought I'd post my own experience of ephedrine and caffeine (no asprin) to share with other ladies who may be contemplating trying this out.

Firstly, I did a lot of research, not just on this board, but everywhere - to check dosages/frequency/side effects. Then I did some basic calculations and discovered it's by FAR cheaper to make your own stack, which I did.

The Eph I bought came in at 30mg and I figured this was way too high for a first timer - so, the first couple of times I took it, I simply cut the tab in half and took it with 100mg of Caf, with a glass of water, on an empty stomach. I have to admit I felt so weird, it almost put me off taking it again - but the saving grace was that my W/O was unbelievable.

My appetite was supressed for a good few hours, which was good, I had to remind myself to eat - I didn't find that a problem. I upped this dose to twice a day, being careful not take it after about 4pm, just in case it affected my sleep - it didn't. Did this for about 1 week and then took what I thought was a HUGE step and increased the dose, so I was taking 1 whole 30mg Eph tab amd 200mg caff - not really because I needed to, more I think to see what I could tolerate. On this dose initially, I felt a little sort of 'spaced out' for a short while, but nothing I couldn't cope with, the W/O's were becoming more and more intense, a few more reps, more sets with more weight.

Now I originally decided to take this stuff to control my appetite and curb my cravings while cutting - of course, I knew thru the research I'd done that this stuff would give you an energy boost, but had no idea what it would feel like!!! It's an odd sort of feeling to describe - I certainly don't feel like I could run a marathon (at this point I haven't even introduced cardio yet), but it's more like a voice saying 'do another set, try a heavier weight' and I do, it's as simple as that.

I've stayed at 30mg Eph/200mg caff, once a day, early a.m. on an empty stomach, prior to my W/O. I've not needed to take any more during the day, as my appetite is supressed BIG TIME. It makes me sweat a fair bit, but I can live with that, it also makes my mouth very dry - so I just drink more water. It doesn't mix with alcohol, at least not for me (I know, I'm not supposed to drink alcohol while cutting, but it was a oneoff b/day party). I've lost about 1 lb per week since taking it and haven't done ANY cardio AT ALL - but in saying that, the W/O's have become VERY intense and obviously that's a compensating factor.

Lastly I'd like to add that I've been cycling carbs and cycling carbs usually makes me feel tired, sometimes lethargic and also affects the weight I use, but this hasn't happened this time around - quite the opposite in fact.

I hope this will help any ladies out there, who may be thinking of trying this ~ perhaps I should have posted this on the ladies board ~ any opinions??

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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/08/31 23:22:55 (permalink)
    yeah eph is great....until you do it for too long....!! Then its not so great all of a sudden.
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/06 10:41:53 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by gymbabeliz

    yeah eph is great....until you do it for too long....!! Then its not so great all of a sudden.



    What happened ~ tell me more....
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/06 12:50:11 (permalink)
    Have you started Clen GBL?
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/21 14:10:29 (permalink)
    Aryan - Yeah I think it is banned from the UK but I have got mine in the past from www.bodybuildng.com - not badly priced either.
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/22 01:00:44 (permalink)
    quote:
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    quote:
    Originally posted by gymbabeliz

    yeah eph is great....until you do it for too long....!! Then its not so great all of a sudden.



    What happened ~ tell me more....



    I believe she might of been referring to anything taken too long, and the body builds a tolerance to it. Time on = time off old adage
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/22 12:00:21 (permalink)
    Yes, what amazes me is that they promote the fact that it's "ephedra free" as though this is an improvement on the older eph based stacks!
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/22 14:03:53 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by PartyBoy

    Have you started Clen GBL?



    lol Party boy, I was just about to mail you and tell you I'd started it...I didn't know whether to post it publicly or not but looks like I've been 'outed' LMAO [:I]

    Yes I have, and I had a question for you, do I just keep upping it til I can't handle it, or is it not a case of more is better?
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/22 14:08:50 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Domeeka

    quote:
    Originally posted by gymbabeliz

    yeah eph is great....until you do it for too long....!! Then its not so great all of a sudden.



    What happened ~ tell me more....



    sorry, I hadnt kept up to date with this thread...

    I think I took it for far too long !! Thats all. every day for at least 6 months doesnt do the CNS much good. I was only taking a low dose but it suddenly went WHOOMPH meltdown. Not a big meltdown but it had stopped doing anything for me and then I got all upset over a certain nothing and thought it best to have a break. So I took a full month off ANY fatburners or stimulants of any kind and felt surprisingly great!

    Now have just started a Clen/ECA cycle but taking the ECA strictly for this and then off it again!

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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/22 14:21:02 (permalink)
    Everyone's tolerance level is different. You may be very responsive to the B2 receptor stimulus from Clen therefore don't be concerned if you don't reach the higher dosages.

    So, yes just keeping upping by one tab per day until shakes or headaches cause you a problem, drop down a tab and maintain for the rest of two weeks.
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/22 14:34:39 (permalink)
    Hmm I am on 6 already day 4!!
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/22 14:36:27 (permalink)
    Think I should stop here?
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/22 15:05:20 (permalink)
    Lol - how have you managed to get up to 6 on day 4?! You start on one and go up one per day! How've the sides been for you?

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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/22 15:26:35 (permalink)
    quote:
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    Lol - how have you managed to get up to 6 on day 4?! You start on one and go up one per day! How've the sides been for you?





    lol yes maths isnt't my strong subject

    I took one and didnt feel anything so took 2 on day one, then 4 on day 2 seeing...[:I]

    Day 2 evening I had a headache that lasted about an hour, and felt a bit achey

    Went up to 5 day 3...no headaches cramps nothing, quite shakey though but nothing unpleasant

    Felt a bit rough this morning in spite of sleeping well, but had 6 today and the shakes seem less than yesterday.

    Am taking plenty of taurine and drinking loads which probably helps

    I was gonna stop at 6 I guess, just because thats already just over the max women are supposed to take.
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/22 15:29:36 (permalink)
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    Strange but i found the Xenadrine RFX-1 the one with the ephedrine at hollandandbarret healthy shops. Check the site www.hollandandbarret.com



    You can get it some places in the UK but I'd be surprised if Holland and Barratt really have the US version!!
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/22 15:30:16 (permalink)
    Where is this female max stated Liz? I thought my GF took 6 max but she recently told me she goes up to 7 without any probs.
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/22 15:58:35 (permalink)
    Can't find the article I used now PartyBoy, but it said 80-100 mcg daily for women....

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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/22 16:47:02 (permalink)
    you can get straight eph at my local supplement shop, and a raneg of products with eph in.
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/24 05:01:10 (permalink)
    its not i checked it out, it is called RFX-1 but no eph.
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    RE: Ephedrine & Caffeine - a female point of view 2003/09/24 09:44:26 (permalink)
    DG I did feel great for having a month break. The only reason i felt ****ty taking it in the end was because I took it for far too long, as stated previously. Now I am taking it in the intended (short term) way. The reason i am taking it is to cut.
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