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2008/05/18 12:44:13 (permalink)
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Ephedrine on my cut.

I have just finished reading UD2, The Ultimate Diet 2 and have planned my cut around this.

UD2 works with 7 day cycles consiting of very low carb days and then 1-2 days of massive carb loads.

I was recommended to 20mg of ephedrine ad 200mg of cafeine three times a day. Nothing after 6 though as I am in bed by 12.

I have just read PartyBoy's post at the top on ECA and have a few questions.

- Where do I get it?
- How is it taken, pill I'm guessing?
- Can I get just ephdrine on its own and then mix it with green tea and a preworkout red bull?
- Why the apsirin?
- Does red bull contain eph?
- Is there a problem taking eph at my age? (don't just say, 'you are young, you don't need sups')
- If I was just to take it on my low carb lifting days would it be effective?
- How likly are the more serious sides PartyBoy posted?


Also for those that take it. When you come of it do you feel like **** when it comes to lifting? I was only thinking of taking it to kepp my strength up while cutting, not for bulking as I grow well and have ok energy normaly.


LAST QUESTION - How would it compare to two sugar free red bulls? One pre worout, one during workout. Which one will be stronger, I'm guessing the ECA is alot stronger seeing a red ball consists of about 80mg of cafeine, it also contains taurine though. Which is worse for you? Which one will my body become dependant on more? Any other ideas?
post edited by jack5r - 2008/05/18 13:09:05

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    Papa Lazarou
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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/18 13:01:53 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: jack5r

    I have just finished reading UD2, The Ultimate Diet 2 and have planned my cut around this.

    UD2 works with 7 day cycles consiting of very low carb days and then 1-2 days of massive carb loads.

    I was recommended to 20mg of ephedrine ad 200mg of cafeine three times a day. Nothing after 6 though as I am in bed by 12.

    I have just read PartyBoy's post at the top on ECA and have a few questions.

    - Where do I get it? www.astronutrition.com
    - How is it taken, pill I'm guessing? Yes
    - Can I get just ephdrine on its own and then mix it with green tea and a preworkout red ball? No, wrong mix of quantites needed
    - Why the apsirin? Increases the effects of the E & C
    - Does red ball contain eph? No
    - Is there a problem taking eph at my age? (don't just say, 'you are young, you don't need sups') Not really, That said IMO its not needed tbh as you look lean
    - If I was just to take it on my low carb lifting days would it be effective? Very, just don't get addicted to it, dont use it every day - its like mild speed
    - How likly are the more serious sides PartyBoy posted? Likely - most people feel a buzz the 1st few times, take it too late you won't sleep, too much and you could feel your heart pumping hard as you heart rate increases, heataches with too much are likely... I find the side fine to deal with but are very real when using eph


    Also for those that take it. When you come of it do you feel like **** when it comes to lifting? I was only thinking of taking it to kepp my strength up while cutting, not for bulking as I grow well and have ok energy normaly. Take it too often and you'll feel tired when you come of it and won't feel awake in the morning without it



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    jack5r
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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/18 13:08:27 (permalink)
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    Ok thanks Papa.

    Scott just told me it has dick shrink effects which I don't like the idea of.

    What about taking cafeine pills on their own without the eph?

    I think you are right and I probably don't need it with my naturaly lean genetics. Atleast not for this years cut.


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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/18 13:15:22 (permalink)
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    Yes, it is a vasoconstrictor so yes it can make it shrink. It can also make you dick feel numb. Known as wizz dick as people get it when using speed...
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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/18 13:16:00 (permalink)
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    - Where do I get it?
    - How is it taken, pill I'm guessing?
    - Can I get just ephdrine on its own and then mix it with green tea and a preworkout red bull?
    - Why the apsirin?
    - Does red bull contain eph?
    - Is there a problem taking eph at my age? (don't just say, 'you are young, you don't need sups')
    - If I was just to take it on my low carb lifting days would it be effective?
    - How likly are the more serious sides PartyBoy posted?


    Cant answer your first question on here really.
    Yes pill
    Yes
    It enhances the effect
    No , caffiene and taurine
    Not IMO
    Yes
    I've taken tons of the stuff over the years as have lots of people I know without any obvious sides other than a bit of insomnia.
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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/18 13:17:06 (permalink)
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    Just a quickie, Astro don't stock Eph anymore - but Century Supplements do ( I wonder if it's the same company actually lol!).
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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/18 13:17:33 (permalink)
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    Dick shrinkage is only temporary mate
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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/18 13:21:20 (permalink)
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    Well my gf seems to like 'suprising me' and interupting my workouts so I can't afford it at anytime.

    Can high doses of creatine have a similar effect? A personal trainer I know said it gives you a lower sex drive.

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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/18 13:31:20 (permalink)
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    No creatine wont be remotely the same. Creatine makes your muscle hold water, eph is a stimulant that works with the brain (its somewhat similar to adrenalin in chemical make up, can fool the body a bit).

    As for eph/wizz dick, you will only get it (and may only get it, not defo) if you use it every day.

    HTH.
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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/18 19:53:23 (permalink)
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    Lol the worst I get with the shrinkage of my penis is it makes me cum before I feel that Im cumming if you get me.

    Apart from that its ok and I personally would not touch it after 4pm at all.

    It comes in pills upto 30mg there was a site saying they had 50mg but I think that site was a con.


    As Papa said it can be addictive Ive had the pleasure of getting addicted You can use it everyday but just dont do it for ages or in stupidly high doses

    I as Papa said don't think you need it but its your choice at the end of the day and glad to see your asking about it instead of just jumping on it
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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/18 22:05:10 (permalink)
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    50s are not hard to come by more econemical as well
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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/18 22:11:20 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: #Hench
    50s are not hard to come by more econemical as well

    prefer 60's myself, pharma as i think the 50's are UG

    Jack you dont need EC on UD2 mate, im on it and im surviving just fine without it. Caffeine gives you a hit, that or a can of sugar free red bull, its 3.5 days of carb depletion mate, get through it as its not that long
    post edited by theiopener - 2008/05/18 22:13:17
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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/20 22:57:19 (permalink)
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    I am familiar with ze sugar free red bull



    That was for todays workout ^^

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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/20 22:59:25 (permalink)
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    jack is that for one day mate?

    thats far too much
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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/20 23:01:07 (permalink)
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    haha na I'm joking mate. I drink 3 a week max.

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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/20 23:02:11 (permalink)
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    LOL I would be running around like a mad man had I drunk all that.

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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/21 07:02:55 (permalink)
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    lawl. ^^
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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/21 08:27:39 (permalink)
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    how much asprin should u use?
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    RE: Ephedrine on my cut. 2008/05/21 14:14:39 (permalink)
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    75mg.
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