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2011/04/05 17:11:31 (permalink)
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Ephergine *sp

I was to believe this is now a band substance and a class A drug as main ingrediant in crystal meth, is this not true?
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    Re:Ephergine *sp 2011/04/05 17:24:44 (permalink)
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    you mean ephedrine? as in the fat loss aid?

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    Re:Ephergine *sp 2011/04/05 17:42:25 (permalink)
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    The op is talking about ephedrine and yes it is one of the ingrediants of crystal meph.
     
    Where Does Crystal Meth Come From?
    Methamphetamine is available with a prescription for obesity, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, and narcolepsy, but crystal meth is a street drug, made in illegal labs by chemically altering over-the-counter drugs. Making crystal meth usually involves reducing ephedrine or pseudoephedrine, found in cold and allergy medicine. In the US, a typical meth lab employs something called the 'Red, White, and Blue Process', which entails hydrogenation of the hydroxyl group on the ephedrine or pseudoephedrine molecule.
     
    Source: http://chemistry.about.co...alth/a/crystalmeth.htm
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    Re:Ephergine *sp 2011/04/05 17:47:12 (permalink)
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    So it I'd a banned class a like I thought? Was just I saw it advertised for sale on this months musclevtalker so thought I was wrong?
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    Re:Ephergine *sp 2011/04/05 17:49:13 (permalink)
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    Not quite sure what class it is.... nothing to say that Ephergine *SP" actually contains epherdrine....
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    Re:Ephergine *sp 2011/04/06 05:44:03 (permalink)
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    not sure on the legality of it, but you can still buy it online all over the place.

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    Re:Ephergine *sp 2011/04/06 06:37:14 (permalink)
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    One of the ingredients in ephedrine is used to make crystal meth. I don't think it has an A classification though.
     
    I suspect things will change though. Be weary of possessing large amounts of them.
     
    Stackers etc are safer for now as people buy them for fat burning. Wouldn't make financial sense to pay top dollar for a small amount of ephedrine when you get get regular ephs for peanuts these days.
     
    I suspect they will be reclassified soon
     
     

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    Re:Ephergine *sp 2011/04/06 10:35:31 (permalink)
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    I was to believe this is now a band substance and a class A drug as main ingrediant in crystal meth, is this not true?

     
    No it's not a class A.
     
     
     
     
    Ephedrine hydrocholride is a Prescription Only Medicine product unless it meets the following exemption:

    30mg maximum dose
    60mg maximum daily dose

    Having met these exemptions, the status is reduced from POM, to Pharmacy medicines (P) - which must be sold under the supervision of a pharmacist registered by the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain (RPSGB). This product cannot therefore legally be supplied from a non-pharmacy outlet.

    However, if you were to purchase a 'P' medicine from a non-pharmacy outlet then it would not be yourself as purchaser, who is breaking the law, but the supplier. Of course, by obtaining such a product from a non-regulated supplier, there can be no guarantees of the product contents or potency.

    Not all countries regulate medicines in the same way as the UK, therefore you may be able to purchase ephedrine hydrochloride without the need for a pharmacist in another country should their own law allow such sales. It is possible to bring medicines into the UK for personal use, however please be aware that up to a three month supply is considered 'personal use', anything above this could be stopped and seized by customs as they may have concerns that the products may be subsequently sold or supplied to others (which would be illegal).

    In regard to the regulations above, it appears that the situation is very similar to those for anabolic steroids:

    Legal to posess for personal use; Illegal to sell or supply.

    This is the law as it stands today. However, there have recently been proposals to re-classify ephedrine HCL's status from (P) to POM due largely to the Governments worry that Methamphetamine usage could spread in a similar fashion to that which has been witnessed in USA. Methamphetamine ("Crystal Meth" or "Ice") was reclassified as a Class A substance in January 2007 and there has been concern that ephedrine and pseudoephedrine is being isolated from well known cold remedies sold at the moment as (P) Phamacy Medicines. Once isolated, these substances are used in the manufacture of Methamphetamine.

    Should this reclassification occur (which imo is very likely), this will remove the option to obtain ephedrine from such sources. As such, we will be left with the option of purchasing from an unauthorised supplier within the U.K., or purchasing from an (un)authorised supplier from overseas.
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    Re:Ephergine *sp 2011/04/07 12:23:01 (permalink)
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    I was to believe this is now a band substance and a class A drug as main ingrediant in crystal meth, is this not true?


    No it's not a class A.




    Ephedrine hydrocholride is a Prescription Only Medicine product unless it meets the following exemption:

    30mg maximum dose
    60mg maximum daily dose

    Having met these exemptions, the status is reduced from POM, to Pharmacy medicines (P) - which must be sold under the supervision of a pharmacist registered by the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain (RPSGB). This product cannot therefore legally be supplied from a non-pharmacy outlet.

    However, if you were to purchase a 'P' medicine from a non-pharmacy outlet then it would not be yourself as purchaser, who is breaking the law, but the supplier. Of course, by obtaining such a product from a non-regulated supplier, there can be no guarantees of the product contents or potency.

    Not all countries regulate medicines in the same way as the UK, therefore you may be able to purchase ephedrine hydrochloride without the need for a pharmacist in another country should their own law allow such sales. It is possible to bring medicines into the UK for personal use, however please be aware that up to a three month supply is considered 'personal use', anything above this could be stopped and seized by customs as they may have concerns that the products may be subsequently sold or supplied to others (which would be illegal).

    In regard to the regulations above, it appears that the situation is very similar to those for anabolic steroids:

    Legal to posess for personal use; Illegal to sell or supply.

    This is the law as it stands today. However, there have recently been proposals to re-classify ephedrine HCL's status from (P) to POM due largely to the Governments worry that Methamphetamine usage could spread in a similar fashion to that which has been witnessed in USA. Methamphetamine ("Crystal Meth" or "Ice") was reclassified as a Class A substance in January 2007 and there has been concern that ephedrine and pseudoephedrine is being isolated from well known cold remedies sold at the moment as (P) Phamacy Medicines. Once isolated, these substances are used in the manufacture of Methamphetamine.

    Should this reclassification occur (which imo is very likely), this will remove the option to obtain ephedrine from such sources. As such, we will be left with the option of purchasing from an unauthorised supplier within the U.K., or purchasing from an (un)authorised supplier from overseas.

    Excellent post.
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